English transcript

Did you ever enjoy your achievements when you were active?

No.

Same thing.

I never enjoyed whatever I won. I always wanted more.

But even now, as a person, if I look back,

yes, I did what I did, but still I'm not satisfied

and I cannot really enjoy it because I want more.

And I'm not even playing.

So that's me as a person.

But it's interesting because when you achieve as much as you have done

and you didn't really enjoy it during the professional career,

it says everything about the person.

That's why I think you reached higher than everybody else.

We had a great saying.

There was something I learned in college when I went to the University of Michigan.

We had an equipment manager who had been a part of the program forever

and he had all 25 league rings.

Because they would give you a ring when you won.

And they would always say to him, when the people would come in,

his name was Big Johnny,

Big Johnny, what's your favorite ring?

And he would always say, the next one.