Chinese → English transcript
In all kinds of settings, what I hear most is, “There’s no way.”
I don’t think it’s that there’s no way, I think it’s that there’s no ambition.
Right now the entire economics profession is trapped in a huge collective unconscious .
And from what you just said, the journals are also saying “there’s no way,” because that’s just the kind of submissions they receive.
Young scholars say, “I also have no choice, because that’s just how the evaluation system works.”
What period is today’s economics profession very similar to?
To the global art world of the nineteen seventies and eighties.
A bunch of classicists were controlling all sorts of salons there.
The result was that some truly original people, who a hundred years later we look back on as great masters in history,
were all destitute back then.
But let me ask you all, how are masters produced?
If we all obey the rules of those salons run by the classical scholars, can masters ever emerge?
So I think if you want to be someone with promise, you really should not go around saying there is no way.
First, journals should not say “there’s no way,” otherwise why are you the best journal in China?
Why are you the best school in China? If you cannot do it, then do not do it.
That is my first point.
My second point, I often hear young sch… scholars say, “I need to survive.”
Yes, you need to survive.
But if all you think about every day is survival, you will never become Van Gogh.
Of course I also agree with what Peng Fei just said, that for now we publish first, get our professional title issues settled first, and then pursue our interests.
But do interests not need to be built up over time?
If when you are young you do not research what you are interested in, do you think you will still have passion at forty?
If you truly are someone who… of course I first agree with the idea of division of labor, that different people should do different kinds of work.
But if you believe that you genuinely care about the real issues of the Chinese economy,
that you want to contribute to this country, do you really think that after you get your professorship at forty-five, it will still be in time?
I do not think so.
So the slogan I tell my students is: Bra ve
to be different. I am done.
Many thanks to Professor Lu. What Professor Lu said was very concise, but his views were extremely, extremely clear, and I am actually very familiar with Professor Lu.
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Original transcript (Chinese)
我在各种各样场合听到最多的就是没办法。 我觉得不是没办法,是没出息。 我们现在整个经济学界陷在一个巨大的集体无意识里 。 并且看你刚刚讲的,杂志也在说没办法,因为接受的 投稿就这样。 年轻学者说我也没办法,因为评价体系就是这样。
今天我们经济学界非常像什么时期呢? 像上世纪七八十年代的全球美术界。 一帮古典学派的人在那里掌握各种各样的沙龙。 结果呢,就是些导致一些有创建的、过了一百年以后 回过头来在历史上的大师, 在当年都穷困潦倒。
但是我请问大家,大师怎么产生的? 如果我们都是服从那些古典学者的那些沙龙的规则, 大师能够产生吗? 所以我认为如果你要是一个有出息的人,我觉得不要 去讲没有办法。 第一,杂志不要讲没办法,否则你为什么是中国最好 的杂志? 你为什么是中国最好的学院?你要做不了你就不要做 。
这是我第一个看法。 我第二个看法,我经常听说年轻学、学者说我要生存 。 是的,你要生存。 如果要是你每天都在想生存,你就成不了梵高。 我当然也同意彭飞刚刚讲到的,我们现在先发表,先 把职称解决掉,然后再追求我们的兴趣。
可是兴趣不要积累吗? 如果你在年轻的时候就不去研究你感兴趣的东西,你 认为你到四十岁还会有热情吗? 你如果真的是一个对......我当然首先同意分 工啊,不同的人应该做不同的工作。 但如果你要是认为你对中国经济的现实问题是有关怀 的, 你想为这个国家去做贡献的,你以为等到四十五岁你 教授评完你还来得及吗?
我不认为。 所以我给我学生讲的一个slogan就是:Bra ve tobedifferent。我讲完了。 非常感谢陆老师啊,陆老师这个非常简洁,但是观点 非常非常明确啊,因为我跟陆老师还是特别熟悉。