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Earlier at noon, the digital edition of Shūkan Bunsho was released, and in it, your own

follow-up on the scandal has been published, including a candid confession from the woman involved.

So, I cannot just read this out as is, but, Minister, during questioning in the House of Representatives

you admitted that, regarding this matter, you went to your Diet members’ office room with this woman on a regular basis.

However, according to this article,

your explanation and hers are completely opposite. You said you only exchanged views and had a normal conversation,

and that is how you responded. But according to this woman, she clearly says

that you engaged in inappropriate acts. Minister

Matsumoto Yōhei, Minister of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology: First of all, I would like to apologize

for the article about me in the weekly magazine. On top of that, I would like to answer

your current question. I was also questioned in the Budget Committee of the House of Representatives,

and I gave my answer there, and that answer still stands.

Mr. Sugio Hideya: When you say “that answer,” do you mean the answer in the article?

Matsumoto Yōhei, Minister of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology: I mean the answer I myself gave.

Mr. Sugio Hideya: According to this woman, after it came to light

you pressured her to give false testimony and demanded that she put it in writing. She talks in such

concrete detail. What do you say to that?

Matsumoto Yōhei, Minister of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology: I am very sorry, but

since this involves another party, I would like to refrain from commenting.

I hope you will understand.

Mr. Sugio Hideya: You just gave that answer now, and you gave the same answer in the House of Representatives.

But this woman says that you are avoiding a detailed explanation on the grounds that “there is someone else involved,”

yet she herself is prepared to admit everything, and that it is cowardly for you to use her as a shield and run away.

That is what she is saying. What is your response?

Matsumoto Yōhei, Minister of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology: I am very sorry, but

since this involves another party, I would like to refrain from commenting.

I hope you will understand.

Hideya Sugio: The other side is saying this, what do you think, Minister of Education Matsumoto?

Yes, there are some. What do you think? - Minister of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology Matsumoto

Minister of Education Matsumoto: I am very sorry that my answer is repetitive, but

as this involves another party, I would like to refrain from commenting on it,

and I would be grateful for your understanding.

Hideya Sugio: Lastly, there is also this response:

“Yohei-chan, stop lying already.” What do you think?

Minister of Education Yohei Matsumoto: As I have stated so far, including in the House of Representatives,

regarding individual comments, as this involves another party, I must ask for your forbearance,

and I would also be grateful for your understanding. Hideya Sugio:

I hope you will understand. - Hideya Sugio

Hideya Sugio: Just to confirm, have you read the article?

Minister of Education Yohei Matsumoto: During the lunch break, you, Committee Member, also told

the Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology to have me read it,

but there was not that much time, so in that sense

I did not read it in a way that involved carefully examining every detail, but

I did skim through it. Hideya Sugio:

Hideya Sugio: After reading it, what did you think?

Minister of Education Yohei Matsumoto: Well, this again would amount to a comment on it,

and since this also involves another party, I would like to refrain from stating my impressions.

Hideya Sugio:

If you cannot give an explanation now, then please provide a detailed answer later,

in writing. And please explain in what way this woman is different and how.

Minister of Education Yohei Matsumoto: As this involves another party, I would like to refrain

from making any comment.

The written response— The request for a written response— Minister of Education Yohei Matsumoto:

A written response was requested by Yohei Matsumoto, Minister of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology.

As for providing a response in writing, as this also involves another party,

I would like to refrain from doing so.

Hideya Sugio: I believe you have a duty to explain, moreover—

Minister, right now the budget is under deliberation, isn’t it, including the education-related parts, and the budget itself…

There are also related bills, and some expire on fixed dates. If you do not respond to this sincerely,

it will affect the deliberation of the budget itself. And let me add, for example,

if a schoolteacher did something like this at school, they would resign on their own,

or face disciplinary action. You are yourself the head of education administration—

are you aware of that? Can you really say that with your chest out? What do you say?

Minister of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology Yohei Matsumoto: I have just received very harsh criticism

from the member, and I am also receiving various severe opinions from many others.

I would like to accept all of those with sincerity.

I intend to do so.

Next, Mr. Hidetani. This will be my last question. Prime Minister, this is your responsibility as the appointing authority.

I believe there are only two options: you either affirm him and keep him on,

or he resigns. I do not think there is any other choice. What is your view?

Prime Minister Sanae Takaichi: To begin with, as for the article that was made public

at noon today, I was not given any notice regarding it, so I have not read it.

As of last week, however, there was a report about this in a weekly magazine,

and Chief Cabinet Secretary Katsurahara conducted a hearing with the person himself,

reported back to me, and on that basis I stated in my response that, as a specialist

in education administration, he should firmly make up for it through his work. Beyond that, I have no further information.

Next, Mr. Hidetani. He is the top of education administration, after all, so no matter

how much of a specialist he may be, there is no doubt that his reputation, his “signboard,” has been damaged.

I simply cannot believe he can continue to fulfill his duties as minister like this.

I will now return to my next line of questioning.

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Original transcript (Japanese)

先ほど十二時に公開されました 週刊文書のデジタル版御自身の 問題の続報が掲載されております お相手の女性のセキュララ告白 ということでこれこのままちょっと 読めないんですけれども大臣衆議院 の質疑の中で本件について普段の 女性と一緒に議員会館の実質に 行ったことをこれは認めておられ ますけれどもこの記事によると

大臣の説明と百八十度違うんですね 大臣は意見交換普通に話をした だけとこういうふうに答弁されました ところがこの女性によると不適切 な行為に及んだとこういうふうに はっきりおっしゃっています大臣 松本陽平文部科学大臣 まず冒頭私の週刊誌の記事につき ましてお詫びを申し上げたいと思います その上で今の御質問にお答えを

いたしたいと存じますが衆議院 の予算委員会でも質問を受けまして 答弁をさせていただきましたその とおりであります 杉尾秀哉君 そのとおりとは記事 のとおりですか 松本陽平文部科学大臣 私の答弁のとおりであります 杉尾秀哉君 この女性によれば大臣は発覚後

嘘の証言を強要した書面に書面 を求めたと言っていますこんな 具体的に話されているんですけど いかがですか 松本陽平文部科学大臣 大変恐縮ではありますけれども 相手のあることでもありますので コメントは差し控えさせていただきます ことを御理解をいただきたいと 存じます

杉尾秀哉君 今も答弁されました 衆議院でも同じ答弁をされたんです がこの女性の方は彼はお相手が いることだからという理由で詳細 な説明を避けていますが私は全て を認める覚悟がある私を盾に逃げ まわるのは卑怯だこういうふう におっしゃっていますいかがでしょう 松本陽平文部科学大臣 大変恐縮ではありますけれども

相手のあることでありますので コメントは差し控えさせていただき たいと思います御理解いただき たいと存じます 杉尾秀哉君 いや相手がこういうふうに言って いるんですよいかがでしょう 松本文部科学大臣 繰り返しのお答えになって大変 恐縮ではありますけれども相手

のあることでありますので私は これに対してのコメントを差し控え させていただきたいと思います 御理解をいただきたいと存じます 杉尾秀哉君 最後にこういう答弁もあります 陽平ちゃんもう嘘はやめよういかが でしょう 松本陽平文部科学大臣 これまで衆議院も含めて答弁

をしてきたとおりであります個別 のコメントに関しましては相手 のあることでありますので御容赦 をいただきたいと存じますし御 理解をいただきたいと存じます 杉尾秀哉君 確認しますけど記事読まれました か 松本陽平文部科学大臣 委員からもお昼休みの最中に読む

ようにというようなことで文部科学省 の方にもお話を頂戴をいたしました 時間がそんなにあったわけでも ありませんのでそういう意味では 詳しく精査をして読むというような 形ではありませんでしたが目を 通しはいたしました 杉尾秀哉君 読んでどう思いましたか 松本陽平文部科学大臣

これもまたですねそれに対する コメントということになります とまたこれも相手のあることになります ので感想を述べるのは差し控え させていただきたいと存じます 杉尾秀哉君 説明ができないならですね後日 詳細な回答をしてくださいそして 文章でお願いしますそしてこの 女性のどこがどう違うのか説明

してくださいお願いします 松本陽平文部科学大臣 あの相手のあることであります のでコメントは差し控えさせて いただきたいと思います 書面回答の答えは 書面回答の要求が松本陽平文部科学大臣 書面による回答ということであります けれどもこれも相手のあること

でありますので控えさせていただき たいと存じます 杉尾秀哉君 説明席にあると思いますよしかも 大臣は今予算の審議されているん ですよね文科関係そして予算の 関連の法案もあります日切れもあります これ本当に誠実に対応していただかない と予算の審議にもかかりますそして 申し上げておきますけれども例えば

学校の先生が学校でこういうこと をしたらですね自ら辞めるから 懲戒処分ですよご自身文科行政 のトップだというそういう自覚 はありますかそれだけ胸を張って 言えますかいかがですか 松本陽平文部科学大臣 今委員からも大変厳しい御指摘 をいただきましたそのほかにも多 くの方からいろいろと厳しい御

意見というものを頂戴をしている ところでありますそれらを真摯 に受け止めてまいりたいと存じ ます 次は秀谷君 最後にしますけれども総理これ 任命責任となります自らですね 肯定するかそして辞任をするか どちらかしかないと思うんですけど いかがでしょう

はい高市さなや内閣総理大臣 そもそも今日の十二時に公開された 記事のあるもの私に対しては通告 はありませんので読んでいない のですが先週までの段階ではですね 週刊誌に報道があったということで 桂原官房長官が御本人から聞き取り をしその報告を受けその上で文部 科学行政のスペシャリストとして しっかりと仕事で返していただく

旨私は答弁をいたしましたそれ 以上の情報を持ち合わせておりません 次は秀谷君 教育行政のトップですからねいくら そのスペシャリストであろうが 看板に傷がついたのは間違い ないんでこのまま大臣の職責を 続けられると私は到底思えません でも次の質問の方に戻ります

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