Discussion on Bunkers and Apocalypse Movies

trope that thought of a bunker is you know

there's a lot of supposedly wealthy people

well they are wealthy but supposedly they have these underground bunkers

that's what you always hear

these rich people these billionaires are setting up bunkers

in New Zealand because they know something's coming

like oh Jesus right good luck getting there in time

yeah right right

if the shit goes down and you happen to be in Hawaii

and you got to get to New Zealand

also your bodyguards are a lot stronger than you are

well when you bring them with you yeah

but it's gonna be every man for themselves

well wouldn't you have it if you're gonna have that kind of money

to make them when you have a bunker

that could house a few hundred people

so that you could you know nobody

this is insurrection in your movement I mean

I suppose if you bring everybody's family you

have to have a lot of preparing for this

that's what really

kept taking me back to those document the documents

in the Defense Department about fear of infection creates anarchy right

and insurrection because this idea of like fear of infection

people begin to their mind actually begins to change in the studies under scarcity right

and scarcity coupled with fear of infection

it's so visceral it's like it's as much of an archetype as the bunker being infected right

very very different than being shot at right

you get the sense if you're if you can get into the bunker

if you're being attacked with a physical weapon okay

I'm safe now close the doors make a fire

but with fear of infection I mean a biological weapon or any pathogen

from is a living munition it's self replicates and it's got an incubation period

so then it at right

so then you can be infected and not know it

while it's incubating inside of your body

and you infect a bunch of other people as well

yeah so what do they think that they're gonna do

if they get into these bunkers

this is the thing it's like if society completely collapses

and anarchy just sweeps the nation and you've got cities on fire

and people killing people and looting

eventually they're gonna run out of food

eventually there's gonna be no infrastructure

you've got no power you've got no one who's taking care of the water

no one's taking care of the what

are these people in the bunker gonna do

are they gonna reinvent society

well that's the plan down the road

but before they have that they're part five of the devolution plan is called reconstitution

so they're gonna reconstitute the government

like rise again like a phoenix from the ashes

but before that I also learned the government has issued rather the Pentagon has issued

1.7 million gas masks to its personnel

so they fan out across the states

but they can not really handle the numbers of people who are actually going to die

pretty quickly

so instead what their job is is to protect the critical infrastructure

all that stuff you exactly mentioned

so they're just just assuming that most people are going to die.

Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, this is the quote, this is the exact quote

from Colonel Tom Erhard,

who ran catastrophic nuclear and biological war games at the Pentagon.

What Erhard told me is,

in the event of a biological catastrophe,

and by the way, that includes not just an attack, but an incident,

and an incident means a lab leak.

So in the event of a catastrophic biological incident,

there is very little you can do to protect the homeland.

Only things you can do to mitigate extermination.

Of the human race?

That's his quote.

Mitigate extermination.

Mitigate extermination.

So you want to keep as many people alive as possible,

but it's probably going to be a very small amount.

And it's probably just going to be the 1.7 people with the gas mask,

and a whole bunch of like Machiavellian solipsists.

Can you imagine if our society had to be reinvented with

only people that work in the government?

Can you imagine?

Some of the most incompetent, crooked people in the world,

and that's the new society?

Well, I have a feeling most of the bureaucrats would die,

because I don't think they could, you know, take care of themselves.

Right?

I think the people that would live would be those well-trained soldiers.

Well, that's not bad.

That's probably a better scenario.

But the other problem you're looking at is reproduction,

because there's 17 percent females in the military.

That's not good.

That's not good.

And then the other problem is that the other people who are left

that are not in the military are –

imagine the skills you have to have to be able to,

like, deal with fear of infection in a manner that you basically have to be able to,

as it was said to me, kill people on sight,

like not even worrying about whether –

this is where it really feels like The Walking Dead or,

you know, an apocalyptic movie.

28 Days Later was based on that.

28 Days Later was a lab leak.

Yes. Yes.

Remember it was called Rage?

Yes.

It was something they were doing with chimpanzees.

That's right.

And a chimpanzee bites somebody.

That's how it opens.

And it spreads.

Those are great films.