Discussion on Gaddafi and Libya's Turmoil
I fought Gaddafi twice
because he, he, he, he inter-inter-intervened in our affairs.
1972, because he, he was supporting Idi Amin.
He was saying that Idi Amin is a Muslim,
and he's supporting a Muslim.
Yes, Idi Amin was a Muslim, but a, but an idiot also.
Are there no idiot Muslims? There must be some idiot Muslims.
So in 1972, Muammar Gaddafi
sided with Idi Amin,
and we had to fight him.
I fought Muammar Gaddafi.
1979, again, he intervened on the side of Idi Amin.
We had to fight him again. But in the end, we made, we, we made peace
with Gaddafi, and he had hi-his issues, he had hi-his ideas.
Sometimes we would agree with him, sometimes we would not agree with him.
Now, when this problem of Libya started, the African Union,
with our chairman, who is here now,
this gentleman here,
they formed a committee.
A committee of a few of us. I think we were six.
I was one of them.
The whole of the African Union
gave that committee the mandate to look for a solution for
the Libyan problem.
Now, on one occasion,
I didn't go that time. These excellencies,
this one here,
Jacob Zuma,
and the others, I, I was not there, but my, my minister was among them.
They entered a plane in Workshop in his place.
They were going to Libya to mediate, and they were told by
NATO to go back.
Mm.
Yes. Said, "You go back."
Okay.
Yes. He's here. If I'm telling lies.
I'm not the one who invited him. You're the one who invited him.
African presidents on an African mission
over African soil
were ordered by NATO to go back,
that NATO has not allowed them to land in Libya.
Now, we call this in Swahili,
the Rao.
Contempt. This is contempt. You are presidents, we are
ordered by NATO. Six of them, not one.
If it was only seven, maybe you could say.
Six excellencies,
African excellencies, were ordered, "Go back,"
over Africa.
Now,
these fellows didn't listen to us. They continued.
They killed, uh, Gaddafi.
Now Libya is in tatters
up to today.
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