Analysis of NATO and Ukraine Conflict

All the propaganda in Europe and the US about the Ukraine war

say, "Unprovoked aggression by Russia. Nothing happened.

We didn't do anything."

It's so sad because these people should learn something.

They should know some history. How did this start?

It started because in the 1990s, in the context

of the diplomacy over German reunification, the US and

Germany promised Gorbachev no eastward movement of NATO.

Then, of course, the Soviet Union

vanished, and one very important thing happened

when that

occurred. They wanted to get out of the 75 years of

effect of the Bolshevik Revolution.

They wanted to move on to, uh, something better.

And what'd they say to me? What did they say publicly all the time?

A common space of peace and prosperity from

Rotterdam to Vladivostok. They meant it.

They had no means, uh, anyway to make power demands

anything else. They wanted actually just normal

relations.

And there's an incredible debate between Kissinger

and the last US ambassador to the Soviet Union

named Jack Matlock, and the issue was about NATO

expansion. And Jack Matlock says, "Why should we have

NATO enlargement? Russia's not threatening us.

It has disbanded the Warsaw Pact, which was its military

alliance. Its military industrial complex is in

collapse. The Russian economy, there's no threat whatsoever, and we're

trying to establish normal relations after decades of Cold

War." So then MacNeil asks Kissinger, and Kissinger says,

"Yes, NATO should enlarge." And MacNeil is puzzled, says,

"Why, Mr. Kissinger? Are they a threat?" "No, no, no, no,

Russia's not a threat."

"Uh, well, are they threatening, uh, any of their neighbors?" "No, no, no, no,

no,

no, Russia's not threatening any of its

neighbors." "But Ambassador Matlock

says this would aggravate the Russians badly." And Kissinger

says, "Well, if you can't aggravate them

when they're weak, what are you gonna do

when they're strong?"

If we are reluctant to antagonize the Russians today when they're

weak, it is an illusion to think we can suddenly

move in that direction

when they're stronger.

And that's the American idea. Always take advantage.

Why not? Instead of saying, "Okay, maybe we can have normal

relations." They couldn't imagine that.

So of course, the US cheats, as it always does, and, uh,

Clinton, uh, starts saying, "Well, maybe there should be NATO enlargement,"

not

taking care of any promises that were made.

The partnership invites all former Warsaw Pact and former

Soviet states, plus other non-NATO members, to join in

military cooperation with NATO.

They decided we're going to weaken Russia.

We're going to put our military all around and make Russia

fall into pieces. Said, "Oh, there'll be a confederation of

three weak states, a European Russia, Siberian

Russia, Far East Russia." And it came in the context of

NATO enlargement. It came in the context of the United

States

bombing Belgrade for 78 straight days to

break Serbia in two. And then in Kosovo to

put the largest NATO military base in Southeastern Europe,

Bondsteel. So the Russians are saying, "Are you kidding?

You bomb Belgrade. You walk out of the Anti-Ballistic Missile

Treaty.

You attack Iraq on completely phony pretenses.

You expand NATO even though you promised not to do so.

You send NATO to overthrow Gaddafi.

You launch a CIA operation to overthrow Bashar al-Assad,

and you say NATO's going to expand to Ukraine and to

Georgia."

NATO welcomes the aspirations of Georgia and Ukraine for their membership

in NATO.

You think Russia's not watching this and worried?

Of course it is, because on February 21st, 2014,

three foreign ministers of the European Union negotiated

with Mr. Yanukovych that he would stay in power and

that there would be

elections eight months later, and this was also agreed with President

Putin. The next morning, a US-backed coup

violently overthrew Yanukovych.

I think Yats is the guy who's got the economic experience, the governing

experience, and, you know, fuck the EU.

No, exactly, and I think we've got to do something to

make-

And it took the United States a nanosecond to say, "We support the new

government."

Right now, Vice President Biden just spoke with Prime

Minister of Ukraine to assure

him that the United States supports his government's efforts and

democratic future of Ukraine.

And Europe, because it's so filled with principles,

said, "No, no, no,

Yanukovych is president." No, of course it didn't say that.

It said whatever daddy said. And Europe

suddenly couldn't even remember 24 hours that it had

negotiated an agreement with Yanukovych that he would stay in power.

And they said, "No, no, he resigned." And Yanukovych is saying,

"Excuse me, I didn't resign. I was thrown out in a violent coup.

I'm still president." You think the Russians don't know it?

Of course the Russians know it, and they say

We don't like this because this is so typical of

American operations. They want to own Ukraine so they can

put their missile systems and their military bases on our border.

Now, the interesting thing about Ukraine

is that there was

pretty much overwhelming opposition to NATO coming to

Ukraine until the coup in February 2014.

Yanukovych, who was the president overthrown, knew

this is not smart for us. If we go down that road,

we're gonna be a war zone. Because as soon as the post-coup

government came in, they say, "Oh, we don't think Russia should stay

in Crimea anymore." All Russia had was a 25-year

lease for its naval base. The coup's not a coincidence.

The coup is to get Russia out of Sevastopol.

That's the point. It was the reason why there

was a Crimean war in

1853 when Britain and France said, "Get

Russia out of the Black Sea." So 2014, Russia takes

back Crimea saying, "No way this is falling into NATO hands." You

have, uh, the war starting in eastern Ukraine,

and Russia says, "We need to not have this violence

escalate." So an agreement was reached, the Minsk II agreement.

And France, Germany, Russia, and Ukraine

all agree to give the Russian ethnic region

of the Donbas autonomy to end the war then.

And what does the United States do?

Of course, it says to this coup-delivered

government and Poroshenko, the president of Ukraine, "Blow it off.

We, we don't want autonomy. We wanna retake that region by

force." And when Trump comes in in the first term, the US pours

in the military aid and builds up a million-person army,

the largest in Europe, actually. And then what happened when Russia

invaded in February 24th 2022? Within

about a week, Zelensky said, "Okay, we can be neutral.

We can be neutral." And the Ukrainians sent a note to the

Russians, "We don't need the NATO invasion.

You stop fighting, and we'll declare neutrality."

And a process

started in Istanbul to have Ukraine and Russia sit down

with each other. And on April 15th, they initialed a peace

agreement which was almost complete to end the fighting based on

Ukraine's neutrality. What happened?

The United States and Britain told the Ukrainians, "No, you

continue fighting." And Ukraine probably, when the war is

over and two million, maybe more, dead and, and seriously

wounded and- These are people. And you- But they have wives, children.

Yes, and you never hear this from the Europeans

that say, "Oh,

this is just Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia." This was

an America drunk with its power saying, "We can do anything we

want," and with a plan. And the plan was to turn Russia into a

third-rate or fourth-rate or fifth-rate country or to break it

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