COVID-19 Vaccine Content and Biden Administration Censorship Pressure

Um, COVID was the other big one

where...

That was, that was also very

tricky because,

you know,

at the beginning it was, you know, it, it's like a legitimate public health

crisis, you know, in the, in the beginning.

And it's, um,

you know, even people who are, like, the most ardent

First Amendment, um, you know, defenders.

The, the, the Supreme Court has this clear precedent

that's like, all right, you,

you can't yell fire in a crowded theater.

There are

times when if there's an emergency, um, your, your

ability to speak can temporarily be curtailed in order to get an emergency

under control. So I was sympathetic to

that at the beginning of COVID.

It seemed like, okay, you have this

virus, seems like it's killing a lot of people.

I don't know, like, we didn't know at the time how dangerous

it was gonna be.

So at the beginning it kind of seemed like, okay,

we should give a little bit of deference to the government and the health

authorities on how we should play this.

But when it went from, you know, two weeks to flatten the

curve to, um, you know, and like in the beginning it was like,

okay,

there aren't enough masks, masks aren't that important,

to then it's like, oh no,

you have to wear a mask. And, you know, all the, like, everything was shifting

around, I- it just became

very difficult to kind of

follow. And, and this really hit

the most extreme,

I'd say, during...

It was during the Biden

administration when they were trying to roll out,

um, the vaccine program. And

now I'm generally,

like, pretty pro rolling out vaccines.

I think on balance the vaccines

are more positive than negative.

But

I think that

while they're trying to push that program, they also tried to

censor anyone who was basically arguing against it.

And they pushed us super hard, um, to take down

things that were honestly were true, right?

I mean, they, they

basically pushed us and, and said,

you know, anything

that, um, says that

vaccines might have side

effects,

you basically need to take down. And

I was just like, "Well, we're not gonna do that.

Like, we're, we're clearly not gonna do that." I mean,

that, that, that, that is

kind of inarguably true.

Who is, who is they? Who's telling you to take down things

that have-

Yeah, it was, it was people

... that talk about vaccine side effects?

It was people in the, um, in the Biden administration.

The interactions that, um,

that I was just referring to, I mean, a lot of this is documented.

I mean, because, uh, you know, Jim Jordan and the, the House

had this whole investigation and committee into, into the, the kind of

government censorship around stuff like

this, and we produced all these documents,

and it's all in the public domain. I mean, basically these people from the Biden

administration

would call up our team

and, like, scream at them and curse.

And it's like these documents are... It's all kind of out there.

And-

Oh, did you record any of those phone calls?

I don't... No, I don't think-

God

... I don't think we re- But, but I think-

I wanna listen.

I mean, there are emails.

The, the, the emails are published.

It's all, it's all kind of out there.

And, um,

and they're like...

And basically it just got to this point where we were like, "No, we're, we're not

gonna, we're not gonna take down things that

are true.

That's ridiculous." Um, they wanted us to take down this meme of

Leonardo

DiCaprio looking at a TV talking about how 10 years from now

or something, um, you know,

you're gonna see an ad that says,

"Okay, if you took a COVID vaccine, you're, um, eligible," you know, you know,

like, uh, for, for this kind of payment.

Like, so-

Mm-hmm

... this sort of, like, class action lawsuit type meme.

And they're like, "No, you have to take that down."

And we just said, "No, we're

not gonna, we're not gonna take, take down humor and satire.

We're not gonna take down things that are, that are true."

And then at some point, um,

I guess, uh,

I don't know, it flipped a bit. I mean, Biden, when he was...

He gave some statement at some point, I don't know if it

was a press conference or

to some journalist, where he

basically was like,

"These guys are killing people."

And, and um,

and

I don't know. Then, like,

all these different agencies and branches of government basically just,

like,

started investigating and

coming after our company. It was,

it was brutal.

It was brutal.

Wow.