Discussion on Business Deal and Bankruptcy

You write in your book, "My bankers and I worked out a terrific

deal that allows me to come out stronger than ever.

I see the deal as a great victory, and eventually, the rest of the world will

too."

Being on the verge of bankruptcy, being bailed out by the banks-

Well, you don't have to say on the verge of

bankruptcy

... what, skating on thin ice-

Yeah

... and almost drowning, that is a, that's a businessman to be

admired?

Uh, you say on the verge of bankruptcy, Barbara, and you talk on the verge,

and you

listen to what people are saying-

I talked to your bankers.

Well, that's fine. And what did they say?

I mean, you know, depending on which banker you're talking to,

what did they say?

Except the only way you even have a chance is by selling that property out there,

totally, the Plaza.

Well, I, I don't know what the bankers have said.

The Plaza's a very valuable property. Everybody told me, "Oh, you paid too much.

You paid too much." Now they're all saying, "What a great deal he made on the

Plaza."