Can Arteta Take Arsenal Beyond the Top Four

Well, and with Arsenal, my concern is, my question and my point I'm gonna make here is, Mikel Arteta finishes fourth this season, which I think is, to be fair, fifty/fifty. I do.

I think that still it's a long way to go.

If he finishes fourth, he almost in some ways is, is as good as he can probably get. That's sad.

That is a stepping stone. You're not talking about- To what?

It's a stepping stone to Champions League- Pep ... recruitment- Pep, Klopp ... and then you can build and build and build from there.

United, Chelsea, where can they go? 'Cause they, they're not gonna compete.

That- United. Oh, United will recover. They throw that much money on it.

I mean, you spent an hour talking about how they're gonna take ages to recover.

I know, but my point is, I'm not talking about recovering to get above Arsenal.

That won't take too much recovering. Look at that Liverpool team, look at that Liverpool team pre-Klopp.

You know, it, it- I'm just saying- ... looks like they're, they're a million miles away from that ... Mikel Arteta, I worry about-- ... looks like they're, they're a million miles away from that ... Mikel Arteta, I worry about-- Mikel Arteta for me is like he's a brilliant coach.

I, I, I love the idea that when I see a team and I can see the maximum is being achieved with those players, the... I can see exactly how he wants to play. We all can.

But he gets to fourth. If he was really hard about it, he'd probably say, "Right, that's the best I can do there. I'm going now.

I'm gonna do my next job." It sounds crazy.

No, what Arsenal need to get-- Arsenal need to get fourth, and I think the, when you sort of liken it to what Klopp did at Liverpool.

Arsenal are at the stage, what I said before, they haven't got a Ronaldo, they haven't got a Kane.

The next sort of two or three signings for Arsenal have to be Alisson, have to be Van Dijk, what they were for Liverpool, where they take you from sort of ch- fighting for the top four, getting in the top four, to making that jump where you're competing with City, Liverpool, United this moment, Chelsea.

That, that's, that's Arsenal's next thing that they need a s- they need a bi- a, a really top center forward who could really take them up a level