Debate on Colonialism and Violence

What made you being, what made you a conservative?

Why do you hate so much people you don't even know about?

Because I see Muslims, for example, blowing people up in

France. They attacked the Charlie Hebdo

headquarters, the Bataclan, the,

the Beslade, the truck attacks in Germany, the airport in Belgium, the

London Bridge attack, and it's a bunch of crazy-ass Muslims

who come in and they-

Do you-

... kill people

... think it's fine to break six Christians?

Do you think there's no Christians that would fight?

Do you think that Christians are nothing?

Sh- show me a Christian who runs through a

crowd of people with

a van simply because he's a Christian and wants to kill people who are not

Christian.

Let me tell you something. Who do you think is the worst person ever

that lived in

human history? Go on.

Probably Mao Zedong, a Chinese communist who killed 40 million

people.

He was an atheist.

But if I'm-

He was an-

You don't think it's Hitler?

... atheist communist.

I mean, you, you want to look at death counts?

I don't think it's Hitler.

You could say Hitler, Stalin, or Mao.

You don't think it's Joseph F-

Stalin-

Joseph Stalin-

Stalin was an atheist communist as well. What do you mean?

He was also white, and you're talking about immigrants.

I'm talking about the worst people in history were white.

So Mao Zedong is white?

Mao Zedong is not the worst person in history.

Yes, he, yes, he, he killed the most people.

He killed more than Stalin.

He killed more than Hitler,

and he was Chinese.

But what about, actually that's in- all the countries possible.

But you're talking about states. You're conflating states with, like,

individual citizens committing crimes. It's not really the same thing.

You're talking about wars. Like, these are different kind of categories,

man. Like...

All wars in history. Tell me, what kind of ethnicity caused the most

wars?

Well, look, I think that there have been many wars in Asia,

many wars in

Africa, many genocides in Africa as well.

I mean, the Barbary-

Well-

I don't know the numbers, but, like, you look at imperialism-

No

... and you see-

But you just don't wanna see it, see?

Look, I don't know the num- what are the numbers?

I mean, go look up wars, go look up African wars,

go look up tribal wars, go

look up Asian wars.

I'm-

But here's the issue,

white people are not the only people who did colonialism, right?

Hm. They're the biggest colonialists.

So the-

They're the biggest

... so, so they, they were the best at it.

And past, past.

But, but yeah, they were the best at it, but the Ottoman Turks had a massive

empire before the Europeans. The Arabs-

Of course. But-

The, the Arabs conquered Spain, Iberian Peninsula.

They invaded in 711 AD and conquered all of Iberia.

They c- they invaded, the Turks invaded Eastern Europe.

They invaded France. So Muslims tried to conquer Europe before

Europe

became a massive power. So the idea that whites are the only ones who do

colonialism,

no.

They're the ones that caused the most colonialism.

They're the ones that destroyed-

The most?

... countries like India.

So, so if, if so, so your standard is if they

did colonialism better than these people, then they're worse?

No, it's not about better. You're talking about wars, mate.

So, so wait, so colonialism's bad? Are we, we agree?

Yes, bro.

Okay.

The ingredients.

So then, so then, so then, so then why do you have to compare, like,

the white

colonialist versus the Ottoman Turk colonialist and try to make a

hierarchy?

The white-

Are they both bad?

One-

But are they-

... one British empire

... are they both bad, though?

You, one, one is worse than the other.

Oh, it's worse. So it's worse just because they did it

better than the other ones?

You're talking about did it bad. You think the British-

So it so- sounds like you're, it sounds like you're a racist, man.

It sounds like you're saying when whites do something, it's worse

when the

non-whites do it.

Yeah, all right. I think the whites did it worse.

I think they did amazing.

They, they did it better, yeah.

And-

So but, but the Ottomans did it, and they did it pretty well,

and they conquered a

massive land mass. So they, they, like-

But then the British did it more.

Yeah, yeah. And, and the Swedi- did the Swedish have a massive empire?

Did the fucking Czechs have a massive empire?

Not even closer.

Did the Poles?

Mostly in the north.

Did the Poles?

It was more-

So let, let's say if you just wanna, you wanna compare with the British,

but let's

take a different ethnicity, right? Let's take Poland.

Did Poland have a giant colonial empire?

No. No, they did not.

The Turks did. So let's compare Poles and Turks.

Are, are, are the Turks worse than the Poles?

The, the Pol- the Turks and the British.

So the Turks are worse than the Poles, right?

Yeah, and the Turks-

Okay

... are also better than British.

Oh, they're better than the British because

they didn't have as big an empire

as the British? Okay. That's a ridiculous way to

judge colonialism as to, like, who had a bigger empire

versus the other. If colonialism's bad, then it's all bad. Like, why...

It's, you're just anti-white.