Discussion on Sonic Game Fanbase Divisiveness

So interesting to see the divisiveness amongst a game that was once

touted as the best Sonic game of the franchise, or at least one of the best

Sonic games in the franchise

Okay, I'm sorry. From the outside looking...

Like, okay, I, I've heard that too, so I'm not doubting you, Emp, when I say

this. I s- I feel like

Sonic fans feel to me like the most unreliable narrators in all of gaming.

I think that's part of the number one thing that makes Sonic discourse so

unfucking

bearable is, like you guys are just like gaslit yourselves.

Like at the very least, like when the Pokemon uncs be uncing,

they're at

least onto some shit, right? They're at least onto something.

When they be like, "Oh," when they're talking about some like,

"Gen four, gen five

was the peak of Pokemon. Ever since they went 3D..."

It's like, I think you're old, I think you're unc,

and I'm gonna make fun of you,

but gen four and five were pretty lit.

When people be like, "Man, Adventure 2 was so good." It's like, oh, why is that?

"Well, th- the Sonic and Shadow." What about the other,

the other like

percentages of the game? That was, you're talking about 33% of the game.

Do you want to talk about the other 66.6 recurring percent?

"No, no, I, no it was g- no, but the movie, the movie was good.

We were better than the Mario movie.

We're better than the Mario movie." Yeah, mate, have your better than

the Mario movie award. Honestly, yeah, amazing. Amazing stuff.

Have you guys ever had a 10 out of 10 game before?

Mario's done it like at least, like at least five times, I would

say, throughout history.

64, Galaxy,

3 World Plus Bowser's Fury, Odyssey, Galaxy 2.

Yeah, Mari- Mario's done at least five times minimum.

How many have you got?

How many have you got, Sonic bro? "No, but Sonic Adventure is such a good game.

It's such a good game." And then Sonic Rush is an underrated...

It's not underrated. It's a correctly rated gem. What

are you talking about?

"But Sonic 3 and K..." We know Sonic of 3 and K is good, okay?

We know that's good, but they split up your game for a fucking

McDonald's deal,

broski. How do you feel? My Mario would never, my Mario would never

do that. And oh, ooh, they're talking about some Sonic

Adventure, Sonic, Sonic the

Hedgehog 1. Pour it on every fucking thing

and it sucked.

Honestly, you guys are just... And then was it today's Sonic discourse

you found

out that it wasn't Frontiers that saved it, it was the movie?

So now you guys are like, "Ooh, but what about...

But should we sell it to Nintendo?" Oh, but what happened when we worked with

Nintendo? It was Sonic Lost World, as if that was Nintendo's fault.

You heard, did you hear about that, Emp?

They've been blaming Nintendo for Lost World, and I'm like, that wasn't their

fault. You made the sandwich and you made it suck.

What are you talking about? I'm losing my voice here.

As you saw that as well, they're blaming Mario for Lost

World. That's what they've been doing now on

Twitter, man.

And I'm just like, why are you g- Like, just to clarify,

at least when I peer into the discourse of other

communities, they're onto some shit.

I feel like Sonic is constantly onto nothing, man.

You guys are onto nothing. Like Zelda right now is going through,

they're like,

"Does Ocarina of Time look good? Ocarina of Time looks shit.

Like da, da, da." But like that debate happens every time with Zelda.

It happened with Wind Waker, it happened with Twilight Princess,

it probably

happened with Breath of the Wild, and now it's happened with Ocarina of Time

remake. Zelda fans are used to that debate, so we're having it,

so the Zelda

fans are having it again. That makes sense.

And the Pokemon f- when a new Pokemon game is rel-

gets released, what happens?

The trees are the trees, the buildings are the buildings, the buildings.

That makes sense. Highest grossing franchise

and it still looks like a PS3 game.

It makes sense. Sonic fans are literally blaming

us, us Nintenchuds, for Lost World.

You guys are un- That's the thing, honestly.

If, if anyone's ever wondered why are Sonic fans so maligned

in like gaming, like gaming as a whole, I would say definitely a good chunk of

that

is 'cause you guys are just unreliable narrators.

Like it's actually genuinely insane.

'Cause when you peer into the worst of discourse of other communities,

at least they're onto something. But consistently with Sonic fans,

every time

like my Twitter algorithm feeds me whatever discourse they on, it's some

bullshit. It's some absolute... Like even Mario,

what's the big thing going

on with Mario right now? "We have big games tonight in the

community.

Nintendo have forgotten about Mario." Is it a bullshit talking point?

Yes, but at least they're onto something.

It has been a tonk of time since a Mario game, right?

Six years, by the way. Not 10.

The worst part of Sonic discourse is people who don't even play the

games think their opinions matter.

We got people out here saying that '06 is a masterpiece because a

fan port-

Oh, and that doesn't, and that doesn't help neither.

That-

...

got it running.

Sonic fans are the only set of fans I've seen on the internet.

I'm so glad you pointed this out. They're the only fans on the internet

where

they will see a mod and then declare the actual game

is better, right?

Pokemon like has a load of mods for like Po- classic Pokemon games.

You know, like you have, for Po- for the original games, you have what?

Pokemon Red Plus Plus. Uh, for Pokemon Gen 2, you have Crystal Clear.

For Pokemon Gen 3, you have what? Inclement Emerald.

For Gen 4, you have like, what was it? Renegade Platinum.

You have so many like definitive, quote unquote, mods for each

generation, but no one is out here talking about some,

"But now the game is

perfect because of this mod." It's like, no, the game was already good.

They just made a mod that like, you know, did this, you know?

But with Sonic fans, they'll, "No, the game sucks.

Thankfully, some fantastic like group or, or modder, or group of modders

came along and actually salvaged something out of that piece of shit." But you

can't retroactively go, "Well, okay, we're good now.

It's good. You see? This is what was always meant to happen.

And then Nintendo ruined it with Sonic and the Secret Rings."

Do you see what I'm on about? Do you see what I'm on about?

You guys are just like predictably always onto nothing,

man. And I underst- when Empgamer says, 'cause that's what he said on Twitter,

like, "Yeah, I just, I've muted like all Sonic discourse ever,"

I

get it. I, I, I, I fucking get that shit, man.

'Cause like for me, I have not muted all Pokemon discourse

because at least

sometimes, sometimes I just peer in and laugh at what the Pokemon chuds

are laugh,

or is going on, you know? Same with the Mario guys,

same with the Zelda guys.

Sometimes I'll just peer in on the algorithms.

With Sonic, I had to mute all that shit with alacrity, bro.

The moment I started seeing people blaming Nintendo for Lost World,

I, I, I started muting everything.

I'm like, I'm, I'm retroactively going back

and muting everything, bro.

I'm not deal- You people are living in a parallel reality

that doesn't

exist next to mine, man.