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There is consensus on cyberattacks, uh, which is exactly what these recent incidences are.

0:08

If you have a big cyberattack that caused a lot of problems, then people will say, "Okay, they were right.

0:16

The people who were talking about that were right."

0:19

So it may be that we have to suffer a few of the negatives, uh, before we'll, we'll respond as fully as we should.

0:30

Then when some of the negatives start to emerge, you have very concrete ideas in place, so people say, "Okay, you're right.

0:40

We don't want that to happen again." So I know that getting people into this dialogue is worthwhile, even though the risk that we'll allow a few events to happen, uh, is very high.

0:54

So in other words, what it's going to take for us as a country and a world to tackle this is not just a 12-page essay from Bill Gates, it could be a catastrophe.

1:02

That's fair. Wow.

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