Discussion on Jesus and the Hypostatic Union

God doesn't do human sacrifice, Baal does.

Okay, so I'm just-

That came from the Greeks

... I'm just gonna have to address it because

the prompt is Jesus did not die, but

she keeps on mentioning Jesus Christ, and it's a violation to the triune nature.

So it's a misrepresentation and I'm gonna have to clarify it.

Okay.

So we believe in the hypostatic union. Jesus Christ was fully God, fully man.

He took upon flesh. That's what He did. That's pure Bible.

And killed himself.

So now when He was in the i- incarnate, in the incarnate body,

He decided to ali- in alignment with the Father's,

in alignment with the Father's

will, to take upon the sins of humankind by

doing the

atonement, the sacrifice.

Okay.

So when He went up on the cross, the human nature died, but the divine

nature never died, and that's point-blank, period.

So how does-

Because we understand God can never die

... how does, how does Jesus, 'cause we believe He's coming back-

Mm-hmm

... does He have to be rebirthed again?

No, we do not believe He has to be rebirthed

again-

This is a question

... because if you actually read the, in jail, you will see that Jesus Christ

already has a glorified body, hence why He came back to Thomas

and He said, "Hey,

look at the holes in my hand." And then H- and then Thomas said-

Are you talking to me?

... "My Lord, my God."

Now are you talking to me?

"My Lord, my God."

Are we having a conversation? You haven't-

Oh, we're ha- what? I could look other way,

but you know I'm still, you know I'm

still talking to you at the end of the day.

No, no, no, I don't know because you're not giving me

eye contact-

Oh

... and you're looking over there.

Mm-hmm.

And when you're having a conversation, you talk to the person looking in front of

you.

All right, fine.

That's so I can look into your soul and you can look into mine.

Um, I, I need you to reason with me for a second,

okay?

And you have to understand our position, please.

It just doesn't make sense to us. God will not kill

Himself. He doesn't need to put Himself in

something and kill it,

okay? He has the power to forgive us all for all

our sins.

He didn't have to give out no blood sacrifices, okay?

Baal likes blood sacrifices. That's his favorite thing.

Oh, yeah.

Okay? So God ain't Baal. God is more merciful,

and He's definitely merciful to Jesus.

He, I mean, Jesus prayed, and God said, "I didn't care about your prayer."

That don't make no sense. He's merciful.

He heard Jesus and He answered his prayer, and He took Him up, and we're

waiting on Him to come back and finish what He left off doing.

Okay. So thank you, Saba, for, um,

explaining everything that you explained.

Yeah.

However, the prompt was Jesus did not die, and I asked for the Islamic

account, however you took me to the Bible, and the Bible still was a burden of

proof on you because nothing in the Bible ever aligns with the Quran.

I'm sorry to say it. Mind you, the Bible came out first.

But anyways, so you took me there, didn't approve anything about how Jesus

did not

die. Then you asked me to not misrepresent,

but you misrepresented the, the triune

nature of God.

Be truthful.

Or should I spec- or should I actually say-

People are watching. Be truthful

... the, the, or, or the d- or the divine nature of Christ, right?

Yeah.

You misrepresented that.

I quoted the whole Quran for you.

Misrepresented the hypostatic union, misrepresented the divine nature of

Christ.

So the reason to why this is an issue is because like it says,

it's Allah made it

appear. So now Allah is deceiving people.

He's deceiving people to believe, "Oh, yeah, it was Jesus Christ.

Go ahead, believe it." Not really caring for those

people's souls as well because

everybody needs salvation. But instead he's like, "Oh, yeah,

you could go ahead and

believe that Jesus Christ didn't die.

I'm gonna make it go ahead and seem like that." And that i- and it,

by, by your

paradigm, if that is the case, then he is at fault for Christianity because he

made

it seem like Jesus Christ died on the cross, and guess what the foundation of

Christianity is? The, the-

You got beef with God, huh?

No.

You like, "Why you trick us?"

Nah, I don't.

I got you. You tricking.

But there goes that. There you go.

Wrap it up.

All right.

Thank you.

So ladies, that was definitely a spicy conversation.

The ax, I know you're a butcher, so I'm gonna let you have that.

I'm not a butcher. I can't help it.

I'll, I'll

I know that's what you work with. But, um, I do wanna hear from you ladies, maybe

we can start on this side this time.

Anything that you wanna add or take a- what you took away from the conversation?

Any, any thoughts that you wanna add to it?

I really wish that there was more interaction from the Muslim side,

specifically on

what was, what Ty brought up, which is, is Allah deceiving

people to be Christian? It did seem like it came into a

debate more on the hypostatic union and her misunderstanding

of the hypostatic union, saying like God can't kill God,

and that's not only a

straw man of what we believe. You kept telling my sister, you know,

"Are we talking

or not?" But

y- you're, you're completely misrepresenting what we

believe, you know?