Discussion on Quran and Biblical Claims

The Quran is not the word of Muhammad, it is the word of God.

But it was written by Muhammad.

It was not written by Muhammad.

Who wrote it?

Muhammad was illiterate. He didn't know how to write or read.

Who wrote it?

It was the word of God, his divine word.

You see? It's every single time. They're very consistent. I appreciate it.

All right? It is the word of God, and they're very passionate about it.

I respect your passion. There's no way you can rationally have a

conversation with that.

The same way, if you ask me, "Why do you believe the Bible's the word

of God?" and

I look you in the face and I say, "Because it's the word of God," rational

discourse is broken down. My second philosophical problem with Islam

is

my Muslim friends inform me Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are inaccurate.

They're perverted gospels.

In fact, it's been changed, they will say.

Right. Exactly. So then obviously the next question is,

well, where are the

unperverted ones? Unfortunately, my Muslim friends cannot produce the

unperverted ones. Instead, what my Muslim friends ask me to believe

is that

a revelation that Muhammad had 500 years after

Jesus, which obviously means Muhammad never met

Jesus, that

that book, the Quran, is a more accurate presentation of their

historical Jesus than the Gospels written by the eyewitnesses.

Well, I'm sorry. Whenever I want to study an historical

person, I don't go running

to a guy who lived 500 years after the fact.

I want to go to the eyewitnesses. I'm not gonna trust Martin Scorsese to be

my primary source of information about Jesus.

Martin Scorsese never met Jesus, neither did Cecil B. DeMille.

I'm gonna go back to Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, who lived in the first century,

to be my primary source of information about Jesus.

My third philosophical problem with Islam is my Muslim friends have great respect

for Jesus. In fact, my Muslim friends respect Jesus far more

than the typical

American does. My Muslim friends believe that Jesus

was born of a virgin,

that he ascended to heaven, and that he's coming back a second time.

Well, that's far more than the typical American

believes about Jesus.

But my Muslim friends say that although Jesus speaks the absolute

truth, Muhammad also speaks absolute truth,

and the problem is they

contradict each other on certain points.

You cannot have A be absolute true and then B be

absolute true if A and B contradict each other, because

that does nothing then

but to allow for C to come along claiming C is absolute truth in

spite of the fact that C contradicts both B and A.

You cannot have an absolute truth contradicted by another absolute truth.

Did Jesus ever claim to be God?

Yeah, he sure did.

When? In the Bible?

John 8:58, Jesus says, "Before Abraham was born, I am." In John

10:30, Jesus says, "I and the Father are one." In John 14:9, Jesus says,

"He who

has seen me has seen the Father." Clearly, Jesus claimed to be God.

So he was both human and God at the same time as well?

That's what he claimed. Maybe he was a lunatic, but that's what he claimed.

He wasn't a lunatic. He was a prophet.

Well, he claimed to be God in human form, which means he's more than a prophet.

He's God in human form. That's what he claimed.

But God is something that's superior to human form, so it doesn't make sense for

God to be human because he wouldn't necessarily be higher than the others.

All right, first point is God is not something.

The Bible ins- says that God is someone, a personal being, and it's totally

possible for a personal being who's the creator to humble himself and become a

human being.