Discussion on Chemtrails and Climate Change

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lines will remain open, but I, I've got a, a special request from a,

from a number of you folks over the past, uh, few years, because invariably on

Fridays, people ask me about chemtrails

and so forth.

And I admit, I am not an expert. So I went and found one for you to

discuss in detail. Kristen Megan Kelly, an industrial hygienist, Air

Force veteran, and somebody who has been looking at the,

uh,

bio-environmental engineering for quite some time, joins me now to

help me to understand. Kristen, welcome to the program.

Thanks for having me.

Uh, you've been studying this for the better

part of two decades, I understand.

Uh, chemtrails, bioengineering, all of these things.

Tell the folks your background so...

W- we're gonna swear you in as a, as a, uh, as an official

expert witness. All right?

Well, I actually am in the real world.

But yeah, so for 24 years, I've worked...

I'm a senior industrial hygienist and an environmental specialist.

Uh, just think of the realms of OSHA, EPA, and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission,

and I have a background in occupational and environmental toxicology.

So when I was in the Air Force, I worked in bio-environmental engineering.

It is the military equivalent of those alphabet agencies that are

designed to protect us, um, in the workplace, and then make sure

that what

is in the workplace is not impacting community environmental

health.

Um, how I got into this, actually, I'm sure some of your listeners have heard

of

Alex Jones. I stumbled upon a documentary a family

member

showed me in 2006, and he was talking about chemtrails,

and I thought, "What is

that?" And I was actually offended, and I thought it was ridiculous, and

long story short, I thought, "Because of my profession, I can

debunk this." Because I was one of a handful of people that

had to... At giant air logistics center bases, I

was lucky

to be at two of them,

the type of hazardous materials that we procure, excuse me, procured

on the base, I had to tie it to a process so people

aren't just going rogue using

carcinogenic, you know, chemicals and things like that.

Okay.

And

yeah, so I have to go through and look at the listing. What is this?

What is this? How... Was it packed correctly?

Does it have an, a safety data sheet, an SDS, formerly an MSDS?

And then I tie it to a task.

When I started to actually try to debunk this process, you know, you're just kind

of in robot mode, and I realized that these SDSs were, like,

half filled out

and missing information.

And I started to tie that the very things that

were claimed being used in what is

called actually geoengineering, stratospheric aerosol, air size

injections. This is what's been coming through this

air logistics center

because they were retrofitting aircraft.

Um, C-130s and KC-135s were being retrofitted at

these bases. And there is certain things I can't touch on because

when I had to

go to these shops, my paper stayed in the room because of the

type of building

classification. But

yeah, it was very scary. Um, I couldn't believe it, and I

couldn't believe that I had been a part of it and how I

was not doing my job

correctly because I should have flagged this before.

Because these types of materials-

All right. So hold on.

Um-

Let, let, let me jump in there.

Yeah, go ahead.

Let's talk about these mater- First of all then,

um, in a very basic sense, in a binary question-

Mm-hmm

... chemtrails, real or not real?

They are real, but the term is used to discredit.

So if you just say weather modification programs, yes, they're

very real, and they're very openly admitted, and

that is why so many states are

taking action against it.

All right. So I mean, cloud seeding, using aluminum to get it to rain in places

where there's a drought, that goes back to what, the 1930s maybe,

the 1940s?

It became kind of something that they would do to try to help out

farmers and

ranchers in drought years. But tell me, when you're talking about

these chemicals that you saw personally, uh, going onto these

retrofitted aircraft, what kind of chemicals

are we talking about?

A- and the real question is, for what purpose?

Yeah. So first, I just wanna say, yes, cloud seeding, yes, is a form of

geoengineering, and they're using silver iodide.

Now, the portion that I exposed is called stratospheric aerosol,

aerosol injection.

So what they're using is they're using nanoparticulate

reflective metals.

So you've got barium, strontium, and aluminum, and they're in

form of, like, oxides, very minute fine nanoparticulates.

And they're dispersed in a way that it stays in the air for a

while, and it's designed to reflect the sun

because if we

have watched the narrative that's gained legs for about 20, 30 years is

climate change. But in my world, as an environmental specialist

of 24 years, the only climate change I've ever bear

witness to

is human climate change, human intervention through these weather

modification programs. And

like I said in, uh, 16 years ago, I knew the military was involved,

but everything

I've seen now, it's privatized. And like I said, it is openly

admitted. You can find the bills that fund it.

You can see the contracts for the companies that are doing it.

All right. And again, I would say this: What is the purpose then?

Um, because, you know, I have people that, that call the program, say, "They're

poisoning us intentionally." Uh, you say they're, they're manipulating the

weather. Well, well, they've done that obviously since the '30s and '40s be-

for,

for cloud seeding and so forth. But what is the purpose today? What

is the truth?

Uh, uh, to the best of your knowledge, you know, and we don't have a lot of time

here, so I wanna make sure we get to some bottom

lines here.

What are they doing, and why are they doing it?

Well, Steve, I try not to question the mindset of

sociopaths, but I don't

think it's for, like, soft kill or anything crazy like that.

I really do think it is designed to dim the sun to

combat what they believe is climate change.

Not to mention, you can monetize outcomes of weather

and crops.

That is something that's been happening for 25 years.

So there are multiple angles, and I'm not gonna pretend to know the

absolute

answer. But what I learned-- By the way, real quick, for the sake of time, in my

master's degree books, there's-- they even talk about this, for

dimming the sun. The gra- the graphics.

It's in my book from 2015

So the reasoning, I think, is just to, you know, save the environment from

the global warming that they're claiming.

So that's what they think. So all right, so they're, they're, they're blocking out

the sun. And these are not to be confused with contrails,

which the condensation

trails behind a 747 that's flying from Denver to Detroit.

It's not that. Um,

but the outcomes, you, you talked about a lot of these things.

You talked about these heavy metals.

These are toxins, uh, and if they remain in the air,

that toxin would, again,

at some point, fall to the ground in the form of rain

or snow or whatever, right?

Yeah, they're toxicants. Um, and what happens is,

based on the different

weather and relative humidity, the dissipation rates, it's going right

onto or, or s- it's getting into the soil.

It's getting onto the food, and it's respirable.

And when you're dealing with these nanoparticulates,

these can get inhaled into the

deep lung. It also, again, gets in the water, and the wastewater

treatment plants do not have the technology to deal with these fine parti-

uh,

these nanoparticulates. But I just wanna go back. You are right.

Contrails are a real thing, and not every line in the sky

is a chemtrail.

All right. So even coming out of, uh, of commercial airliners?

I can't speak to that. I have no evidence of commercial

airliners.

I just know that the US military was involved back when I

was on active duty.

So there you go. All right. So, um, we've got about 60

seconds. What are the health concerns?

Uh, neurodegenerative, asthma, respirable issues.

Um, it can also elevate stress levels, inflammation, and it's

especially harder for people who have existing cardiovascular issues, respirable

issues, and expectant mothers-

You know, it's interesting-

... and people who are more sensitive.

Yeah

... it's, it's interesting you mention asthma

because here's an anomaly

that I identified myself, and I'm no scientist like you,

a number of years

ago. Uh, we have cleaner air when you do air samples

than we've had

since the Industrial Revolution began, and yet the incident of asthma in this

country has gone up several-fold over the last few years.

People with asthma, it, it, it's exploded. I gotta leave it there for today.

Uh, I hope that whets people's appetites, Kristen, and, and, and, and helps

them to get a better understanding of this.

Do you have a, a website or someplace they can follow you,

real quick?

Just follow me on X. It's @KristenMegan, and, uh, go to Amazon

and watch the documentary Climate Trails.

There you go, Climate Trails. Kristen, really appreciate it. Thank you.

Thank you.

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