Discussion on UAPs and Presidential Disclosure

that far.

But you had a chance to speak directly with the President

and urged him to go even further earlier this year.

When did that happen?

So I was in the process for several months

putting together a series of reports on seven different topics.

And UAPs, ET, and disclosure was one of the topics.

And so when I was ready,

I asked to see him.

And so February the 6th, I was in the Oval Office with the President

and there was a Staff Secretary by the name of William Scharf, S-C-H-A-R-F, who was also there with the President and myself.

And I had concerns about dumping so much information on him at one time.

And I asked Susie, Susie Wiles, shouldn't I hold back and maybe only give him two or three papers?

And she said, no, she said, go ahead and give him everything.

I can tell you this,

it may take him a while, but he will eventually read it

all. I said, okay, I'll do it.

You don't know how much time you've got with him?

I haven't a clue. I figure it's probably more than 30 minutes, but I don't know.

And as it turned out, we were finished in about an hour and 15 or 20 minutes.

But I could have taken two days because these were complex subjects.

And on the disclosure UAP ET subject, which is always great fun to talk about,

that's a really important one. It's super important.

What was your goal going in?

What was the one thing you wanted to convey to him on that topic that you wanted to come out and have him understand?

In such a short period of time, I only had an average of like 11 minutes per paper

to talk about a paper.

I wish I had a lot more, but let me read to you something I told him and

I wanted him to say verbatim. And I described where he should say it, not where a podium existed and a lot of media existed.

But I said, I want you to,

for example, deliver this statement

as you were getting onto Air Force One,

and you're about to go through the hatchway through the door, but you stop and talk to the media.

And you might say something like, I just want you to hear something. I want to make a statement.

And I would say, and this is what I want you to say, Mr. President.

A non-human intelligent presence has been on earth for a very long time

using spacecraft and with performances completely beyond our capabilities and our human physics.

And that's it. To say nothing else. That's it. That's all.

Because what this is, is disclosure and it's actually confirmation.

And the two are welded together.

These are wedded together.

And confirmation has not been officially made by any president that I know of.

They've had different kinds of contact conversations and so forth.

And a really good close friend of mine verified, Harry Reid,

who he and I were very good friends for many, many years, verified with Bill Clinton that he didn't know about the subject.

And this was, I think, in his second term.

And there was a staffer that wrote a book and he referred to a conversation that he and Bill Clinton had, President Clinton had,

and it just involved

when President Clinton said to him, before I leave office, there are two things I really want to know.

What the hell is the UFO subject all about?

And who really killed JFK?

Yeah, his aide was Webb Hubble, who got the assignment to go dig into this.

Yes, yes. And he didn't get the answer.

So Harry took the book. Right.

So I gave him the book and I showed him where on page so-and-so had said that.

So he met with President Clinton.

He said, did you say this?

And Clinton said, hell yes.

Would you like to know the answers to those two things, you know?

He said, absolutely, you know, I would. I mean, the sense that we have, after digging into this topic for a long time,

presidents come and presidents go, and they have varying degrees of interest in the topic

and varying degrees of knowledge of it, right?

If they don't push it,

they're not going to find out. Is that your sense of it?

Absolutely, absolutely.

Somebody has to be the driving horse to pull that wagon and it can't let go.