Discussion on Robert F. Kennedy's Assassination

Paul Schrade, who was with my father when he was shot,

was a union leader,

one of the heads of the United Auto Workers.

He was the guy who recruited Cesar Chavez into the labor movement.

And he introduced him to my father and they became best friends.

And so Paul was very,

very close to my father and was with him.

The first bullet that Sirhan fired hit Paul Schrade in the head.

And Paul Schrade has never believed that Sirhan killed my father.

He knows that he shot him.

But Sirhan, and so I,

and Paul forced me to sit down to read the autopsy report,

stuff I never wanted to do,

and to look at all the evidence that has accumulated since my father's death.

And... So Ethel's your mother, right? Ethel's my mother.

Sirhan was, there were 77

eyewitnesses in the kitchen of the Ambassador Hotel when my father was killed.

And many, many of them had a view of what had happened.

A very few of them could view the whole scene, but they could view parts of it.

Everybody, without exception,

places Sirhan from five feet to 10 feet away from my father

in front of him. He never got behind him.

He was always in front with a table between them, a steam table.

Sirhan fired two shots at my father.

The first one hit Paul Schrade in the head.

The second one hit a doorjamb at my father's head level behind my father.

Then he was grabbed by Karl Olker, who was the concierge

at the Ambassador Hotel, and by Rafer Johnson and six other people.

It was a dog pile, and they all piled on him.

And they grabbed, the first thing they did was grab his hand.

They directed it in the

opposite direction, and they could not get the gun away from him.

And he was powerful as a, like a Superman, they said.

They were all trying to take the gun away from him. He's only this big.

He's a little guy. And he fired six shots in the other direction.

All of them hit people.

One person got hit twice.

But all those bullets are accounted for.

There were only eight chambers in his gun.

And two were fired toward my father and six in the opposite direction.

And we know what happened to every one of those bullets.

My father was shot four times.

One of the shots, and all four times were from behind.

What? And with a gun that was...

And they were all what the coroner,

Thomas Noguchi, said contact shots.

The barrel of the gun was touching my father when the trigger was pulled.

And he had carbon tattoos from all four shots.

One of the shots went

harmlessly through his sleeve and through his shoulder pad.

All of the shots were fired from a low angle toward the ceiling.

Whoever fired those shots was standing behind him, concealing the gun,

and firing at the same time that Sirhan was distracting people, essentially.

And the person who almost certainly fired those shots

was a security guard who was holding my father's arm at

that time called Eugene St. Caesar.

And a dozen people saw him with his gun drawn.

My father fell back on him, and as he fell, he turned and

pulled off Caesar's clip on tie.

Caesar lied to the police about his gun.

He told many, many different stories about when he had drawn his gun.

He lied. He said he did own a 22.

The police didn't talk to him that night, didn't confiscate his gun.

The time they talked to him, he said, yeah, I owned a 22, but I sold it

a month before the shooting.

As it turns out, that was a lie.

He sold it a month after the shooting, and he sold it to a man who

worked with him in the

high security section of the Lockheed factory here in Los Angeles.

Who then moved to Arkansas later talked to investigators

and said yeah He had a receipt from when he was sold and it was sold in July.

My father was killed in June

And Caesar told him at that time

This gun was used in a crime.

So don't talk to anybody about it

Caesar it as it turns out

What is a CIA?

I said he died about three weeks ago And

he died in the Philippines where he's lived for the past three decades

And But he's almost certainly person who who killed my father now

his Job as a security guard that I he got five days before

When it was already known that my father was gonna be speaking there

We don't know exactly what happened but there are and then,

you know The investigation was a botched investigation that appears to have

been deliberately botched by the LAPD

It was run by people within the LAPD

all of whom had they were there was a special

unit Created called special unit senator to invest in my father's death

Almost all the members of that unit were XCIA agents who had

trained in the CIA farm and in Virginia and

Shipped down to Latin America to do dirty tricks work

there and then brought back for this investigation

and they Destroyed before Sir Hans trial.

Hey, they destroyed

1 200 pieces of evidence all including all the bullets

And I and and

about 1 200 photographs as well that were taken in the room that night

So You know,

there's a lot of questions there's never there really I believed that

there had been a trial as it turns out there Wasn't a trial Sir Hans attorney

Was an attorney who

Somehow and nobody can explain how he was a mob attorney Hmm who was representing

Johnny Roselli?

Who had been at that time?

There was a famous trial

in Los Angeles called the Friars Club trial You know what the Friars Club is, please

Friars Club is where they started roasts.

Okay, and it was it was all the Rat Pack Um

Actors Joey Bishop and Frank Sinatra

Dean and Dean

Martin Davis Yeah all of those guys were members of Friar Club and they'd get

together every couple of months and roast one of their members and to Get in there.

You have to be wearing a tux

They also had a

gambling a poker game or a gambling casino I'm not sure which but there was a

poker game in there

And as it turns out Johnny Roselli was the owner of

the club Johnny Roselli was the CIA's

Liaison to the mob. Wow. That's a trip.

You know, I used to read about him.

He was in the 20s, too Yeah, he was an interesting guy. It was a devout Catholic.

He didn't have a home address But he was tied in with Giancana,

but also Carlos Mazzello and Trafficante

He had installed Secret cameras

in the Friars Club so they could read everybody's cards and they were cheating

He got caught and he was on trial at the time.

My father was killed and it's a huge trial

During that trial his attorney got arrested

for having the grand jury

Transcripts which is illegal for anybody to have it's a

serious crime You go to jail for it and

somehow he had the transcripts of the grand jury.

So And clearly the mafia

had some bribes somebody to get that

Given it to the attorney the attorney

wouldn't tell where he got it But he was facing criminal charges also disbarment

and he in the middle of all that He was somehow Appointed as Sir Hans attorney

He told sir hand to plead guilty If sir,

and had Pleaded innocent There was no way that he could have gotten

convicted because the bullets that Were in his gun the bullets that

killed my father did not match the ballistics of the bullets in his gun Or the

bullets that hit the other eight people cover a big time. Whoa