Debate on Germany's Support for Ukraine

The Ukraine cannot win against Russia.

It is impossible.

Do you not think it is appropriate for Germany and for

other West European countries to support a country that is a democratic

country trying to defend itself against this outright aggression?

Well, um, it's as democratic, um,

um, as it is. Um, they have no elections anymore of

a new president. That's a reason why the American

president, he

claims, uh, new elections for the, um,

president, because he thinks that Zelensky

is not the right, uh, person at the right time.

Re-

Well, they don't have elections right now

because it's in a war-

Yeah, democracy is... Yes, yes

... and there's martial law.

But it's still, but it's still. When we talk

about, um, a aggressor and someone

not being a aggressor, we also criticized

the Russian attack on Ukraine, because

Ukraine is a sovereign country, full stop.

There's no discussion about it. But now we are in the

state, uh, uh, a status quo right now, and the status quo

is terrible, not only for the people dying and for the

families losing their sons, and the damaging of

infrastructures, refineries, with

skyrocketing, uh, uh, uh, diesel prices, um,

and, um,

incredibly high security risk for all countries,

especially European countries. So therefore, we need to put this

to an end. I have to judge every foreign

policy of Germany. Is it in our national interest, or is it

not? The prolongation and the measures

being taken by the German governments right now

impose a huge risk on our country, and we think,

I think, it is wrong to continue with the

prolongation of a financing of a already lost

war. The Ukraine, unfortunately, you can say,

really, like, the Ukraine is too small.

The Ukraine cannot win against Russia.

It is impossible.

I just want to make sure I've understood this.

You are suggesting stopping all German financial and

military support, all European support. Is that right?

Is that your preferred policy?

We already spent over 100 billion.

No other country has spent that much, and we are highly indebted.

Yeah, I have the interest of my country

first. It's Germany first, and this war is not in our

interest, and it's very, it's very

dangerous for our national security.