John Discusses DOJ Voting Investigations and Former Intelligence Officials

John,

what do you, what, what is your feeling-

Yeah

... on this one?

So I, I've been on the same rollercoaster you

have, Glenn.

You, you know, you do lots of this great reporting.

You try to help people.

I'm, I've been in the White House, uh, declassifying documents, and you see this

extraordinary body of evidence, and then you see the people implicated

in that body of evidence walking free, thumbing their nose, going on television,

making money, writing false letters that mislead Americans in elections, and

you're like, "Is it worth even doing?" So the answer,

of course it is. It is.

Um, I have detected, uh, since the beginning of the White

House Task Force, uh,

a new

sentiment in the Justice Department in the prosecutorial world, and I'll just

use some examples. So, you know, our original releases at the task

force were the basis for the president's July speech

about, uh, China in- uh, interventions in our election,

including the theft

of voter records, uh, the fact that there were a lot of non-citizens on

voter

rolls, and some appeared to have voted, uh, and then the

election vulnerabilities. Now, I can tell you from the work I've done

that this

has long been known in the government, but it had never gotten to the president's

attention. In fact, there was an intentional effort by the

intelligence world

to keep two presidents and probably a mem- and two Congresses in the dark on

this.

The antiseptic of light kicked in a whole new sort of activity at

the Justice Department, and I suspect it wasn't the Justice

Department wasn't

looking at it. It was probably the career people like,

"There's nothing going on

there, nothing there. It's rare. Doesn't happen." All of a sudden,

you've seen

north of 100 non-citizens charged with voting.

You got a major criminal investigation in New Jersey about maybe systemic

non-citizens, uh, getting on, uh, the board.

You've seen some new actions taken to protect our voting machines.

The intelligence that we made public was six years old, but nobody ever

acted on it until Donald Trump gave his speech.

Um-

Jesus

... you heard the other day that, uh, John Brennan in a court filing said he was

told by prosecutors he's a target.

You only give someone a target notification if they're about to be

indicted.

I see an awful lot of activity in the grand jury talking to defense lawyers,

looking at, uh, activity and behavior by, uh, James

Comey and his inner circle. Uh, I didn't see that activity for much

of the last first 13 or 14 months of the Trump presidency,

except in the FBI. The FBI was always churning.

But it seems to me that the Justice Department

is in a different gear,

and that gear has been kicked in for different reasons.

HSI takes on Ilhan Omar separate of the DOJ.

They drive that case. The president's speech puts new evidence

out there.

I've seen more accountability activity before grand juries and in courts in the

last eight weeks than I saw, quite frankly, in the first six

years of the two Trump presidencies. So something is going on.

Mm.

But it only matters if you get results, and the result will be someone

being charged if there is criminality, um, and/or being

sued or being charged with fraud or having their job taken away.

I think we're in a window now where we're gonna finally know the answer.

I don't know which one it will be, but there's enough activity

that the Justice

Department is probably gonna give us some clarity.

And certainly on election integrity, you're seeing things you've never seen

before in the history of the Justice Department. Not Trump.

I mean, there have never been this many

non-citizens prosecuted in the history

of the Justice Department in one year.

You've never seen a case like they're-

Wow

... bringing in California, where the pay to play with the homeless

people has

blossomed into a very big scandal.

And last night, while you and I were probably getting ready for bed,

Glenn, the

Justice Department did something really significant,

something they could have done

a year or two ago, but they didn't. They told California,

"We see these many people

that we think are non-citizens on the 26 voter rolls.

You better get them off before Election Day, 'cause if you allow them to cast a

ballot, we're coming to charge you with knowingly

and willfully letting

a, a illegal alien vote or a non-citizen foreigner vote."

And that's never been done before.

Wow.

That is a shockwave. That's activity we haven't seen in the

past.

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