Discussion on Israeli Politics and Conflict

And if we go dark, I put all those things out there-

Yeah

... how did, how did these guys not know this

was taking place?

So I've been to Israel many times. The whole country's a fortress.

When I first heard this story, I still had the same gut

instinct that I did initially. I find this very hard to believe.

I've been to that Gaza border. You, you cannot go 10 feet without running

into a 19-year-old with an AR-15 or an automatic machine gun

that is an IDF soldier, right? The whole country is surveilled.

And so, so let me j- let me just kinda go through this.

We don't talk about Israeli politics very often, and most Americans don't know

this. The last nine months, Israel was on the brink of civil war.

It's not an exaggeration. This judicial stuff, there were pr-

there were hundreds

of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets because Bibi Netanyahu was

basically redefining the Israeli constitution.

That's not an exaggeration, right? He said the judicial branch has too much

power.

There were protests planned this week against Netanyahu, where they

anticipated tens of thousands of people to take to the streets.

That's all gone, Patrick.

Netanyahu now has an emergency government and a mandate to lead.

I'm not, I'm not willing to say, to go so far that saying that Netanyahu

knew or there was intelligence here, but I think some questions need to be

asked.

Was there a stand down order?

Was there a stand down order?

Six hours? I don't believe it. Israel's the size of New J- size of New

Jersey. When I took a helicopter ride from

Jerusalem to the Gaza border, it's 45 minutes.

Wow.

Six hours. They're live streaming the killing of

Jews.

Was- did somebody in the government say, "Stand down"?

That is a legitimate non-conspiracy question.

The whole country is the IDF.

The whole country is.

Yeah.

And you're trying to tell me that they're going to concerts

and kibbutzes and

schools, and by reports, six hours.

Let's say it's three hours.

That's suspect.

Uh-

Go ahead, Rob.

It's also not, like, a right-wing, uh, reporting.

This is from The New York Times.

Thank you.

"The Long Wait for Help as Massacre Unfolds in Israel."

Look at this. Nine, nine hours.

I can't think of a more liberal-

Yeah

... news outlet than The New York Times.

And, and, and by, by the way, I, I'm actually very pro-Israel,

so let me be very...

I mean-

Mm-hmm

... so I'm not exactly-

Well, I mean, we all are.

No, no, I just wanna make sure my position

is clear here.

But I would... So Patrick, there are other explanations.

It's possible that the Netanyahu government was double-crossed by bad

agents, okay? That's dark, but it's not as dark as what we're talking

about, okay? Another aspect is that Netanyahu might have traitors

in his government, like legitimate traitors

that have infiltrated.

I was texting with some si- senior people in the IDF and they said,

"Charlie, can't

say too much, but let's just say the same problem you

have with the left in

America, we have here in Israel." So just something

to think about.

Just something to think about, right?

Is that maybe there are some people within those intel

agencies

that aren't as sympathetic. Or maybe, Patrick, maybe

they might've gotten a tip, they might've gotten whispers,

but no one thought it

would be 1,200 Jews dead. That's a potential, right?

Because here, here's the, here's the essence of it.

The essence is this. This is the closest thing to the Holocaust

that any of us have

lived through. But the fact is now Bibi and the Israeli hard

right government has a mandate,

I gotta be careful the way I say this, to they're gonna try to ethnically cleanse

Gaza.

Yep.

I mean, that, that's... And I'm, I don't use that term lightly, okay?

They're, they're talking about basically removing

2.5 million people-

Mm-hmm

... from there, okay? And honestly, they have a mandate to go seek

justice and revenge. They do. The, the, there, there is, they, this

idea that they need to have a tre- truce or a peace treaty, that's morally

crap after you see women and children be burned alive

and dragged through the

streets. But there are some serious questions here, Patrick,

and let me tell

you, my pattern recognition

over the last five years has become pretty sharp.

COVID, Maui fires, you know, Epstein.

When I see a story and it doesn't click-

Hmm

... we're, our guts are usually right