Debate on International Law and Sovereignty
Vanessa Neumann
Mm
... I mean, the, the fact, what Jeremy Corbyn says about Donald Trump
going into a,
a, a sovereign country and, and snatching the leader, I mean, that
breaks all international laws, does it not?
No, it does not break international laws. I think it was done into a war.
Which, which, which law does that allow?
Uh?
Which law allows that?
Well, the-
Which law allows that?
Well, the, the, the law, the fact that he was a fugitive from justice
and not a
head of state-
Which justice is he a fugitive from?
... and the head of the criminal law in the,
in the region.
Where is he a, where-
The rest of the region was not thrilled, by the way-
Where is he a fugitive from justice?
... because they suffered the exodus.
Where, where-
Most of the region suffered the ma- massive exodus, Colombia in particular.
There's almost 3 million Venezuelans-
But hang on
... in that country.
You, you said he's a fugitive from justice.
Yes
Where?
United States. And other-
But he wasn't, he wasn't in the United States.
He's in Venezuela.
Doesn't matter where you are, you can be snatched
and you can be captured.
If I w- if you're a criminal on the run, you're a criminal on the, or, or
you're a criminal in hiding, you can still be caught, period.
Why didn't they apply for extradition then?
From the Chavistas?
Why didn't they apply for extradition? Why didn't they apply for extradition?
Well, from the Chavistas wouldn't have been
granted.
That is the normal way.
W- would have been never granted. It was a dictator.
You seem to be agreeing with the idea that one powerful country can go in
and take
the head of state from...
He's not a head of state.
What would you say if, uh-
He's not a head of state. And by the way-
What would you say then if Putin went into-
He's not a-
... Ukraine and took Zelensky?
He's not a-
What would you say then?
He's not... Well, the same thing. And Zelen- Zelensky was elected and
now, and now, you know, but Ma- Maduro-
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