Debate on Climate Change Perspectives
What is your view on climate change?
Okay, first I'm going to talk about the sociology
of why certain people have been separated out
as heretics or even called deniers.
This is not a natural scientific consensus
that has emerged over a long time.
It's a manufactured consensus of scientists.
You know, at the request of policy makers
who are exaggerating the truth and the interests,
political objectives or whatever.
So that's what it's about.
It's not about any fundamental scientific disagreement.
Other than global warming being a component of climate change,
what potential reasons are there for this shift in terminology?
Well, people are trying to figure out
how they're going to get people's attention.
Heating, heating sounds more dangerous than warming.
The attention is really shifted to these extreme weather events,
hurricanes and floods and heat waves and whatever.
But that's really part of natural weather and climate variability.
If you're an academic scientist working in the climate area
and you want to advance
and get grant money and professional recognition,
you would be well served to hew to the alarmist narrative.
Pre-industrial is held up as some sort of golden age.
The weather was horrible.
This was at the end of the little ice age.
The weather now is much better.
But right now, this minute,
having our entire energy infrastructure relying on wind turbines and solar energy
is going to cause a lot of harm
to a lot of people,
not just to the overall economy.
You can't run an industrial economy on wind and solar,
at least the way it's currently.
The biggest climate risk right now is the so-called transition risk,
the risk of rapidly getting rid of fossil fuels.
We could have a really good power infrastructure in place with abundant,
clean, inexpensive power.
But not if we fritter away all our efforts right now
on wind and solar that's going to actually damage our economies.
The biggest tragedy of all this is a lot of the
development funds from World Bank and all these kind of things
has been refocused on wind and solar
rather than on development and adaptation and reducing vulnerability.
The powers that be aren't lending or giving Africa
the resources that they need to develop these resources.
To me, that's the biggest crime on the planet right now.
Is CO2 solely responsible for the warming of planet Earth?
No.
The sun throughout millions of years has mostly been dominated by the sun.
What consequences have you faced or pushed
back as a result of your dissidence?
Well, in the academic world,
I faced a lot of consequences.
I mean, I clearly wasn't going to advance any further.
My employers wanted me gone.
I was essentially unhirable.
So academically, you know, they pretty much finished me off.
So I went to the private sector.
Why do you think it's being pushed for
so seriously by governments around the world?
What's behind this?
Oh, it ties into a political agenda.
Okay.
And you have to go back to the 1980s
to understand where this comes from.
You know, the UN environmental program,
they want world government.
They don't like capitalism.
You know, they want power for themselves.
They want world government.
It's a power issue.
So it's just been politics,
politics,
politics right from the start.
And then, you know, it's developed a lot of momentum.
And if it chimes in with certain people's politics or environmental worldview,
Greta Thunberg, who's been enormously influenced on children with books,
and now the children are being raised on this,
all this alarmism, and it's become a huge psychological problem for children.
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