Discussion on Israeli-Palestinian Conflict

This is an ethnic cleansing exercise.

And what the Israelis thought they could do was they thought they could murder

large numbers of Palestinians and drive them out of

Gaza.

And they thought they could starve them to death and use that

as an instrument for driving them out of Gaza as well.

If you look at the damage they have inflicted on

Gaza, it goes well, well beyond

the claim that they were interested in going after Hamas

and that this is just collateral damage.

They've destroyed virtually every university or

college in Gaza. They've been tearing up

cemeteries.

They've been destroying libraries and mosques.

They've been shooting up hospitals.

There are hardly any functioning hospitals in Gaza.

More interesting is what you were saying about the long term, how to

evade something like this to happen again in the long term.

You're going to have, as I said, the continuation

of an apartheid state. Israel is going to remain an apartheid state.

And the question you have to ask yourself is what are the

oppressed people in that apartheid state

going to do? And the fact is they're going to continue to resist.

Because now we're talking about the West Bank and Gaza.

West Bank and Gaza.

Yeah.

I mean, the thing you want to remember is that the number of Palestinians

inside of greater Israel is roughly the same

number, same number as the number of Israeli Jews.

By my

count, you have about 7.3 million Israeli Jews

and

7.3 million Palestinians inside of greater

Gaza.

Mm-hmm.

The question

Not greater Gaza, but the whole of Israel, you mean.

Yeah, I'm sorry, greater Israel. Yes, inside greater Israel.

And the question is, you know, given those numbers and

given that you have an apartheid state, where does this all lead?

Well, it's a demographical time bomb for the

Israelis.

That's right. And that's why they were trying to ethnically cleanse Gaza.

That's why they were murdering all those people, contrary to what you said.

You want to understand that the Israelis understand

that they live in an apartheid

state. The Israelis understand what happened to

South Africa.

They understand that an apartheid state is not sustainable over the

long term, and they have to fix the problem.

And the only way they see to fix the problem is to drive the

Palestinians out of Gaza and

out of the West Bank. And if they can't do that,

they'll murder them all.