UFO Channeling and Government Involvement

So Frances Swann is a channeler out of Elliot, Maine.

So sh- he is working with a channeler.

Well, he's working, he's working, there's these two Navy guys, and one guy's

connected to the CIA. He's got a ne- a CIA pass.

So he knows Lundahl's into this whole thing.

So in '59, these guys fly back, and they say, "Oh,

we're flying back to get air

time," and for their ticket or whatever.

And so they fly back, and then she says, "Well, wh- why have to do it for you?

Why don't you, why don't I just show you how to do it?"

And the guy says, "Okay."

And I can't remember what the guy's name was.

We've got his name, but he sits down in the chair.

She puts his hand on, she puts her hand on his right shoulder,

and suddenly he

starts channeling. He starts this, they're doing the automatic writing.

He starts automatic writing. And they go, "Holy cow." And he's like, "Whoa," and he

goes running back. And of course, where does he go?

He goes first place, he heads to, uh, uh, Lundahl, who runs the National

Photographic Interpretation Center. That's his main job.

So go back and say, "Art, we f- this woman taught me how to channel." He

said,

"Fantastic. Sit down." And this is where this memo

that Jacques Vallée gave me,

it's le- 11 pages, and it's this document that ha-

what happened in

this meeting. And I think it was July

9th, 1959. So the guy comes back, they sit him down in the chair,

and they start

asking him all these questions. And, and they, they, this is all transcribed,

and,

"Do you favor a world religion?" "No." And this question, this question, and

question. And then Arthur Lundahl says, "We'd like some proof." And then the

guy goes from automatic writing to voice.

Says, "What do you want?" He said, "I'd like you to show yourself." "When?"

"Now.

Go to the window." And they go to the window,

and this flying saucer goes flying

across in front of the Capitol.

And the commander, still in a trance, told them to go to the window

and they would have proof.

The group moved to the window, where they supposedly observed a UFO.

And then they called in Robert Friend, who was running Blue Book, and they,

it's an

emergency meeting. They said, "You gotta come see this." And,

and they call him in.

He flies in from Wright-Patterson, and they set up,

set up the channeler again.

They set up this guy, and they do the same thing again.

They make the contact.

He sat for several minutes, and then appeared in a deep

trance with his Adam's apple moving up and down rapidly.

And then they say, "We'd like you to show yourself." "The

time isn't right.

Uh, I'm busy. The time isn't right," and they shut down.

So Friend goes back to Wright-Patterson, and he talks to his, uh, commanding

general. And he said, "This woman is unbelievable.

This guy, his Adam's apple was moving up and down." He says,

"Something's going on

here. We should, we should investigate this woman

and see what's going on here."

And then the general says, "Another agency has it.

Hands off." And we never hear anything more.