Discussion on Neonatology and Brain Death

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And of course, that was only nine months after I was conceived.

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Anyway, what... I started Special Care Nursery in Carnival Honor Children's Hospital in 1963.

And we were instrumental in... We helped invent the ventilator.

We invented how to take blood pressure on premature babies.

We were the ones that invented nutrition in the vein.

We identified the need for magnesium,

the need for zinc, the need for copper.

And we did metabolic beds.

We did every intake and output and did these things.

So we were a leader in the field of neonatology.

The hospital still is a leader in the field of neonatology.

But then I had a baby,

Joseph, in 1975, who had flat brain waves.

It was such a big brain damage.

And it was suggested to stop treating him.

I said, well, I don't do that. I treat babies.

Some live, some die. And

I kept treating him.

And he did eventually get off the ventilator.

And he went to school when he got straight A's in handcraft and played baseball.

And he's married. He has three children.

So because of him, after about six months when he continued to live and was doing much better than anybody would have predicted,

I started to investigate brain death.

And it took about two years until I understood the language of brain death.

Brain death is a lie.

It's a lie that's been told over and over again.

So people don't even realize it's a lie anymore. But it's been a lie from the beginning and continues to be a lie.

So I published in the medical literature.

I have an article in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

I have an article in the Gonzaga Law Review. It's 85 pages.

It has 244 footnotes to it.

And because of that, eventually I have continued to talk about brain death.

Brain death is a lie.

I have talked all over the United States.

I have talked in many countries on the subject and continue to do it.

And that's because of different things. That's how I got to meet Ted Fogarty.

I didn't meet him myself, but through his cousin who's a physician and listened to what I had to say as

we went to a football game.

And she said, you should know my cousin.

So that's how I got involved with this.

But the truth is easy. And then once you deviate from the truth,

then you have,

first it's false, but then when people become conscious of it, it's false and it's a lie.

Brain death is a lie.

The way it occurred was that Christian Bernard did the first heart transplant in South Africa in 1967.

Three days later, they did the second heart transplant.

And you don't know where that is, but I'll tell you.

It was done in Brooklyn, New York.

And what they did is they cut the beating heart out of a three-day-old baby and transplanted it into an 18-day-old baby.

And at the end of their surgeries, the short time after the end of their surgeries, both of those babies were dead.

It was illegal.

It was immoral.

And so they had to do something to make it legal.

And so what they did is they set up a committee at Harvard, and the committee invented brain death.

The committee did not do studies on dogs or cats or rats.

They didn't collect data on human beings. They just invented brain death. And

they had no patient data, no basic science studies.

And I know it's really awful when you know about it.

And it doesn't get better.

It keeps getting worse after that.

A lot of people think that brain death means flat brain waves.

They're not even required to do brain wave testing.

The way they did that,

they studied nine patients, and two of the nine still had brain wave activity.

And then they concluded no longer is it necessary to look at brain waves, so it's not required to look for brain wave activity.

So when you're doing the transplantation on people they say are brain dead.

They're all alive. They're all alive and completely recoverable. They're

all alive.

So they're harvesting organs out of people who are in some way conscious.

They just can't communicate,

and they feel pain. Consciousness and pain,

I encourage you to sharpen your mind so that you stay focused on one issue or the other.

Okay, and consciousness is important,

but it's one thing not to demonstrate consciousness.

And then we use words like unconscious.

But unconscious does not mean that there's no consciousness.

It just means that we do not observe consciousness, and there's a difference.

So it's like subjective observation. Right,

and whether a person shows consciousness or not does not indicate whether they're alive or dead.

So you use consciousness, and what else did you use?

Pain, that they feel pain when they take the organs out.

Pain is one of those things that's real, and we should pay attention to it.

But pain is the way that the body knows that something's wrong, and it's the way that healing is initiated.

Now, we live in a world where no one should have any pain.

Well, there are some sayings,

no pain, no gain. Pain-free is not exactly a good thing.

In fact, the matter is, it's a bad thing.

So focus on pain. Now, here's what happens.

Just because a person can't demonstrate pain doesn't mean they don't have pain.

A very good example of that is they give paralyzing agents

when they take the organs so that they don't move and they don't squirm.

And even if they don't move and don't squirm, when they're caught on them,

their heart rate goes up and their blood pressure goes up, which is the response to pain.

But they can't demonstrate that they have pain.

Because they're paralyzed. They're

paralyzed. So they can't respond by...

That's

horrible. Horrible,

horrible. It gets really bad if you pay attention to it.

So in any event, they invented brain death mainly to get organs,

but then also so they don't waste money on treating people who aren't ever going to get a job,

who are just going to live and not die.

And so, you see, what brain death is, it's primarily a way to get organs.

No, it's no different than what they did in Germany.

It's exactly what they did in Germany.

It's exactly what they did in Germany.

And actually,

in my research many years ago, when they had to do the research by going to what we call the stacks in the library to get the old journals,

I found articles in the Journal of the American Medical Association in 1919-1920 of a doctor in Germany who wrote to the Journal of the American Medical Association

and telling them what the doctors were doing in Germany. He signed it, the overseas correspondent,

and told the doctors in the United States what was going on in Germany, and that was before Hitler.

So in many ways, what's going on in this country is very similar to...