Discussion on Unemployment and Economy

We need to see unemployment rise.

Unemployment has to jump 40%, 50% in my view.

We need to see pain in the economy.

We need to remind people that

they work for the employer,

not the other way around.

I mean, there's been a systematic change

where employees feel the employer is extremely lucky to have them,

as opposed to the other way around.

So it's a dynamic that has to change.

We've got to kill that attitude.

And that has to come through hurting the economy,

which is what the whole global world is trying to do.

The governments around the world are trying to increase unemployment to get

that to some sort of normality.

And we're seeing it.

I think every employer now is seeing it.

I mean, there is debt.