Discussion on Allegations Against France and Israel

I think France and Israel are involved in Charlie Kirk's

assassination, and, um,

I'm gonna put that out there with full confidence.

Okay.

I also have-

Yeah.

Involvement.

I understand.

Yeah. That's-

So you think you, you... With full confidence, you think that-

Yeah, I think Israel's involved

... that France and Israel-

Yeah, I, I... Well, I mean, the person that gave me that thing

that I reported said

that f- uh, French Foreign Legion were on the ground that day.

Mm-hmm.

Again, this would be, this would be at a professional limitation

for me to then

go and probe that information that I handed over. I can't do that.

I'm not the United States government.

But you don't have any positive evidence of that.

Again, again-

Right?

Liz, I don't... You... Can you just stop?

It's, it's actually just, like, annoying to hear you keep saying,

"Positive

evidence." I've, I've... Just ask me what I think

and I'll just tell you, yes, I

think they are involved.

Well, I... That's a claim.

No, I said, "Here's what m- here's what I think."

I have every right-

I think-

... to ask you about your claim.

Yeah, but I said-

And if there's positive ev- evidence for your claim-

I, I... In this statement, I literally just said, "I think,"

and I am allowed to

think.

Yeah, you're allowed to think-

And you keep saying, "Do you have positive evidence?"

... but you're making a claim.

I have tons of positive evidence that I'm allowed to think, yes.

I, I agree. You're allowed to think.

Okay. So-

Nobody's disputing whether or not-

Yeah, but, like, you're, you're-

... Candace Owens is allowed to think.

What I'm asking is if-

I, uh, but, but you... What's your issue, then?

... you have positive evidence-

What is your issue with the statement, "I think"-

Uh-huh

... that Israel

is involved?

You-

I do.

That's not what... That's not just what you said.

You said-

I did say I think

... that with, with, it's with full confidence.

Yes, that I am-

You would think that if you had full confidence-

Can you have confidence to think when you think?

If... But if you... If I said, for instance, uh,

"I think I'm going to be late

to work," right? With full confidence.

I would say, "My evidence for that is that I'm 20 minutes away and I need to be

there in five."

You... Uh, uh, Andrew, Andrew.

That's how you would know whether or not you had full confidence.

I, I, I'm just gonna tell you something.

My sis-

No, no, yeah, let me finish. Let me finish.

Sure.

Let me finish. If it was the case that I said I, "I have full confidence-

...

I'm going to be late to work," I would say, "My evidence that I'm going to be is

that work is 20 minutes away, right?

And I have to be there in five." So I have full confidence.

That's why I would think that. So I'm asking if you think that Israel and

France were involved in the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and you say with full

confidence, I'm just asking for the evidence,

or at least walk me

through the mindset of why it is that you could think that with evidence.

I actually don't have to walk you through why I think.

Um, I can also, I can give you something

that I think with full confidence.

I think with full confidence that you know you lost the substance of

this debate,

and now you're moving toward things that I have said that I think,

which I can do.

I'm allowed to think that.

They're pertinent to this debate.

You know, actually, would you like to remind him of what our

debate claims actually

were?

And would you like to remind that-

You said-

... you said I could ask you about any of

these things to my heart's content?

I said you feel free, but y- you did, you do not get to- ...

structure how I'm allowed to reply or ask me why are you allowed to think.

I'm not structuring how you're allowed to reply.

I'm just asking you direct questions.

I, my, I have full confidence that you do not feel

that you represented your claim well, and so now what you came prepared to do-

That's nice. I'm just wanna know-

... is to present yourself like a professor of

fallacies-

I just wanna know-

... and to say, "You're not allowed to say that.

You can't..." I...

It's my podcast.

You can say whatever you want.

It, it... Well, I, I said it.

Nobody's disputing that. I'm asking-

It, it seems like you are disputing it

... I'm asking specifically-

I think that when this is all said-

... why you think that

... and done, I've already explained to you,

I explained at the beginning of this-

Mm-hmm

... why I think Israel is, is, is ultimately-

And France

... going to be proven to have involvement in

this.

Mm-hmm.

Um, I just explained it to you in the middle,

and now you're wanting me to

structure the sentence or provide evidence.

You don't have to d- You're just allowed to think,

and I've explained to

you my thought process. I don't need to structure it in a

sentence.

If you feel like a professor today, you picked the wrong day.

Don't you think that, like, tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands

of

people would want to know what Candace Owens' positive evidence for

why it is-

No. I don't-

... that Israel and France were involved in the most traumatic public

assassination of Gen Z's lifetime is?

That's why they watch my podcast.

So you're just gonna drip to them-