Discussion on UK Local Referenda and Immigration

Well, there's already talk, Julia, of, uh, other villages such as Crowborough in

East Sussex and Wetherfield in, uh, in Essex

having their own little referenda to decide to leave the UK.

I'll tell you what, this will be more trouble for the

government than

the, uh, the three national leaders of- ...

Scotland, Northern Ireland, and, uh, and Wales meeting about going

separate because, um, it... I mean, that'll make that a, a pitting, a

piddling little matter.

Yay.

Yeah. Uh, but, but, but certainly this, th- this, this shows that there's a

grassroots revolt building up. I mean, we've seen on the

left huge demos about

foreign affairs issues such as Palestine-

Yeah

... and, you know, in the past about jobs and about the poll

tax and so forth. But it's, it, it's, it's unusual to

see people on the other side of the political spectrum campaigning

against a government which is doing nothing to address their

concerns.

Yeah. It is-

That they've made

... it is fascinating, though, how you've got the...

Lots of people pointing out that people in this little area voted for,

they've had

some Lib Dem councilors, but they've got a Lib Dem MP at the last

general election.

The Lib Dems are very pro-migration.

They don't want, they don't want, you know, the borders shut.

They don't wanna have a massive cut on this.

They think these people are all genuine asylum seekers fleeing for

their lives

from, checks notes, France. L- I had a lovely time not

fleeing for my life from France over the summer.

Uh, uh, but I mean, it's, you know, they, y- y- a lot of people are going,

"Got a lot of sympathy for them, but you know what?

Inner city areas have been dealing with this stuff for years.

Oh, well, now it's affecting you. Oh, now you're waking up." I mean, it's-

Ab-

... a fair criticism.

Absolutely. And the, and the Lib Dems, you know, they,

they sort of feel everyone's

a, everyone's a genuine refugee. Well, they probably are in the UK because

55% of those who co- enter here, um, get, get

asylum. As com- uh, uh, you compare that with the rest of Europe, it's about

20%.

Well, you say this.

Well-

Everyone always thinks they don't get asylum. They get the right to stay here.

Right, the right to remain.

That's because we can't get rid of them, and so we let them stay.

Which doesn't mean we think they're a genuine case.

And we had that whistleblower from the home office, front page of the Times last

week. Um, so if the Times writes it, then people like us who've been saying it

for

years, we were all bigots and racists and, uh, uh, for saying it.

When the Times puts it on the front page, then it's true, uh, because the nice

people are saying it, though only 1% of applications they

believe are genuine.

Yeah, you would, you would think they were all genuine asylum seekers the way

they

talk. I mean, if, if, if they're genuine asylum seekers,

there are routes to

get in here. Um, and these people are concerned

about the, the fact that they're undocumented, unvetted,

they're all young men-

Yeah

... and they're being dumped i- in their village-

I would be-

... lord, lord

... genuinely scared. I mean, my daughter at least is an adult now,

but even then,

you know, I would be genuinely scared for...

They've got, I think they've got z- uh, 300 odd, uh, 350 people,

133 are women, 40 odd are, are, are children.

I would be very, very fearful to have that many, you know, men. But...

And we know because the government has admitted by putting out those leaflets

saying, "Could you not rape? Would you mind ever so not sexually

assaulting,

harassing, and raping women, please?" Um, I mean, you know, they've admitted

that these men are coming from c- cultures largely where women

are treated as sec- not even second-class citizens.

They have no rights whatsoever, and that a woman who's not fully covered up is

fair game, and so are children. And I'm sorry,

that would scare the living daylights out of me.

Yeah. Uh, and, and this is why I always argued,

even back in the nine-

late 1990s when Labour came into power under Tony Blair, and

remember Robin Cook saying, "We've got a rich, multicultural

society"? And I remember saying then, "Hold on a minute.

I don't mind a multiracial society-

Exactly

... where the color of your skin doesn't

matter, but I do not want a

multicultural society. I want the church bells ringing on a

Sunday morning.

I don't wanna hear the call to prayer every-

Yeah

... couple of hours."