Discussion on Pandemic Response and Accountability

I want to, let's, I-

A- and one of the mistakes we made in the

last time

was suppressing those rights so people weren't being heard.

Doctors who were saying, "You're doing it wrong,"

were being marginalized and vilified.

Yeah.

And-

Because, because... Again, I really want to move on, but-

Yeah, of course you want to move on-

You were saying, you were-

Because you were-

Yes, I do

... part of the problem.

No, I wasn't part of the problem.

Yeah. Yeah, there was absolute press malpractice for

allowing your job-

Mr. Secretary

... and your job-

Your job-

... is a fierce skepticism-

Okay

... toward authority.

Yes, I am.

And you weren't doing that.

I am.

You were beating up on people-

My job is also-

... who were dissenting.

Is... No. Okay, are you gonna, you wanna sit here and attack me

or do you wanna

have conversations about how to prepare?

Well, you're sitting here and attacking me.

I'm not attacking you. I'm asking questions-

I, uh-

... about how to prevent the next pandemic.

And let me, here's the question, and I'll tell you.

That's what I'm trying to do. But I also-