Discussion on the Book of Enoch

Rep Luna. You know, she came on my podcast too-

Mm-hmm

... and she, she was telling me some stuff that

was just, like, mind-blowing.

And she was, she really got me to read the Book of

Enoch.

She's like, "You gotta read that."

So you have the Ethiopian Orthodox text, which has, I think,

88 books in the b- of the Bible, um, in total.

But in the Ethiopian Orthodox text, it's basically kinda like a m- a

mainline OG version of the Bible. And then sometime in the fourth

century, there was actually a group that came together, and they removed

certain books. And

the, the story goes, uh, that Revelations actually had replaced

Enoch.

And so it's interesting because when you're looking kind of full circle

on...

You know, you hear the stuff that some of these people

are talking about, and then

you see and you read the Book of Enoch, which is a wild read, okay?

And then you look at kind of what our modern-day description is of what

angels and entities are versus what Enoch was seeing

and reporting

in his language and ability at that time.

I just, I think that there's a lot that

brings you to then ask the question, "Well,

why would they remove this information?

If it's truly, you know, written in, in part of the oldest Bible in

the world, why would they then take it out?"

Then that could have easily been attached to the religious canon,

but, um, some rabbis disagreed with it 'cause it

didn't vibe with the

Torah, so like, let's chuck that one out.

But it's in the same lump of Dead Sea Scrolls as they have the Book of Isaiah,

which is, which is really fascinating 'cause Wes

Huff, when he was on my podcast-

Mm-hmm

... explained to me that the Book of Isaiah, and

that they found in the Dead Sea

Scrolls, is verbatim-

Mm

... the same as the Book of Isaiah that was a thousand years more

recent.

Whoa.

A thousand years.

Whoa.

So this was, this was the oldest version that they

thought was the oldest version, and then they found the Dead Sea Scrolls

version,

which was a thousand years older, verbatim.

Fascinating.

Fascinating.

And the Book of Enoch's in there.

There you go.

Like, what are they-

Yeah

... talking about?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What are you talking about? The Watchers-

Yeah

... came down, and they mated with humans, and they created a race

that was a giant race that destroyed everything and

consumed everything.

Mm.

That sounds like us.

Mm-hmm.

Doesn't that sound like us?

It-

If you're some flimsy,

tiny alien thing with no musculature and a large head,

and you make giants- ... you, you make football players- ...

you make m- marauding Vikings, you know, that are just showing up in boats and

hacking everybody to pieces. That's how you would describe them.

Yep.

You would describe them, giants destroyed everything.

Yes.

It's, it's all very weird stuff, man.

And Enoch himself-

Really weird stuff

... goes through this amazing personal

transformation where he goes up to heaven,

he walks with God, and then he turns into Metatron, this

angel. And a lot of people think that's part of

kind of a celestial

ascent tradition.

Mm.

So you have celestial ascent traditions-

Right

... and various, uh, uh, traditions and, uh, you know, the, the,

the wheels of Ezekiel. Or, you know, some people think in the Book of Acts,

Jesus does this, or Paul has the thorn in the flesh where

he

sees God. And so

maybe there's something around ascending up into this

state and coming back down, and there's, there's a translation function where it's

hard to say... You know, once you've ascended,

it's hard to say what you've seen.

Like the, like in the M- Moresque-

Yeah

... immortality key-

Yes

... where the, like, there's, like, a fight club around it or something.

Mm-hmm.

This is the fight club of the ancient world.

Whatever happened there, no one talked about it under penalty of

death.

I mean, people went to Eleusis as human beings,

and from what little

testimony survived, again, because it's secret,

under penalty of death,

they, they walked away thinking they were immortal.

This all sounds really insane. I'm sure any average person would-

Yeah, but I mean, you would have to have a fight club around

it because no one's

gonna understand, nor are they gonna take you seriously ever

again if you start

talking about this