CIA's Operation Paperclip and Mk-Ultra

Operation Paperclip brought over 1,600 German scientists

into the United States government after World War II,

including individuals who had conducted

human experimentation in concentration camps.

The CIA military were aware of their backgrounds

and recruited them anyways.

In your research, did you find direct documentation

between Paperclip scientists and the development

of Mk-Ultra's experimental protocols,

specifically the use of mescaline hypnosis

and sensory deprivation, which were techniques

also documented at Dachau?

Absolutely.

Kurt Bloma, who was the chief of biological weapons

development for the Nazi government,

came to work for the CIA.

So did Walter Schreiber, who was the surgeon

general of the Nazi army.

I can just tell a brief story.

When I was researching my book, I

found what I think might be the first secret CIA

prison or black site.

It's a nice chalet in Germany.

And the guy who now owns it took me into the basement.

He said these were the cells where the Mk-Ultra officers,

working side by side with Nazis, carried out

those gruesome experiments, which were actually

just continuations of the experiments

that those Nazis had been conducting just a few years

earlier right down the road.

Just for timeline and clarification,

these experiments were happening after the Nuremberg trials,

correct?

So the CIA would have known that these

were crimes against humanity.

I looked for an episode in which the Nuremberg doctrines were

posted on the wall in some Mk-Ultra or CIA office,

and I was never able to find any indication

that those Nuremberg principles ever were even

consulted, much less obeyed.

Thank you.