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How should we shape our long-term relations with Ukraine?

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All the time. Until they become a member of the European Union.

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And they will. Because they must. Should we continue to treat them positively, or should we keep these recent incidents in mind?

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These are ridiculous, media-hyped matters.

0:17

The point is to constantly support a country that is fighting a giant battle for survival against our enemy.

0:24

If we read history, we will see that this country has never been lucky enough to decide anything on its own.

0:32

First, the Poles destroyed it. That is the truth.

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The Poles destroyed Ukraine? Of course, absolutely.

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And Volhynia? Sir, Volhynia is an incident in response to nearly 300 Orthodox churches destroyed in the Second Polish Republic.

0:48

Please educate yourself on history. These facts exist.

0:50

And do you think that naming a military unit in honor of the UPA is the right move by the Ukrainian president?

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It's not the right move, but unfortunately…

0:59

If he aims to unite societies—part of Ukrainian society, just like the Polish one, are nationalists.

1:07

Therefore, he aims to have them support his policy as well. He made a mistake, that is indisputable.

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But what will be the consequence of this?

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For us or for them? For them, and consequently for us, because if we have a society going in that direction and the president supports it too, won't it backfire on us later?

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It's a shame that the president is a doctor of humanities, given the attitude he displays.

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It's a shame, because in politics you can't give with one hand and take away with the other.

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No matter what, whether titles or medals.

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It's simply ridiculous.

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