Discussion on AI Risks and Safety

Do you mean Dario is right about describing the potential

harm, he's right about describing the regulatory

solve, both, the

first, the latter?

Just can you help us understand when you said that?

'Cause I think it was sort of a-

I-

... a moment where everybody was like-

Should've said more than-

I, I probably should've said more than just

Dario is right.

I, I did try to clarify it in subsequent

posts on X, but, uh, those get

much less, uh, attention.

Uh, so what, what I, what I'm implying is he's right is that, that the, the,

the danger of AI is,

uh, is very significant at this point.

Um,

that, that, that we, we, we need to do better with AI safety

or, or we have, um,

at this point, exponentially increasing risk with the AI

models.

So,

and, and, and, and I've heard this not just from Dario,

but from many other people

at Anthropic, and in fact, they've posted on X about it,

uh, that, that, uh,

you know, when, when a lot of people from Anthropic and,

and even, and from

OpenAI, um, are telling

you that their models are very dangerous, I think we should believe them.

It's, it certainly is like some, some crazy 4D chess to-

... you know, um,

you know, uh, say these, these I- there's, there's whatever 10% chance of

annihilating humanity. But by the way, um,

how much allocation would you like in our IPO?

Guys.

That's some, that's some crazy 4D chess, you know?

Well, let, let's get-

I don't know if you knew where the mention that's coming from.

Um-

Ca- can we get specific about the risk though,

Elon?

Like, obviously we see cyber and hacking- ...

as an obvious risk. These tools are great at it.

But take us from what we would all agree, okay, yes, these things can cyber hack,

to how do we jump to all of humanity dying?

It's, it's-- there's a couple of steps in between these

two things happening,

I think. Yeah?

Well, I mean, if it were able to take control of military

systems

and, say, to launch a nuke-

Yes

... um, that would be bad.

Yeah.

More than-

And these systems are all air-gapped, though.

These systems are all

not, uh, connected to the internet, so.

Yeah, that's what they say.

But, uh, something tells me they get software

updates from time to time.

Yeah.

And what's on that floppy disk?

Right.

Oh, I see. So the, yeah, the, the, the USB drive has a worm on it, and they

somehow make the jump in the air gap. Yeah.

Yeah.