Discussion on Child Violence and Morality

So what's your view on the kidnapping and beating of children and murdering them

with their bare hands after torturing them, however they were kidnapped?

I understand that the, the history is

complex and-

So you cannot give me-- you cannot simply say you condemn that.

You're trying to use it. You're trying to find a form of words to

accept the murder

of two children. I can categorically and easily condemn the murder of any

innocent, whether it's Gaza or Israel. You simply couldn't do that to me.

Don't you find that shocking, as a, as a clergyman of this church, you simply

wouldn't enable that. You'd instantly say to me,

"I condemn the murder of

two innocent-