Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Questions Vaccines’ Role in Declining Infectious Disease Deaths
Nov 1, 2026 7:16 About United States
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Nov 1, 2026 7:16 About United States
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Hi, I'm Robert F.
Kennedy Jr., your HHS Secretary.
At my recent Finance Committee hearing,
Senator Cantwell showed
us this chart to illustrate the
decline in infectious disease
during the twentieth century. The vaccine industry has long
used this kind of chart as
proof of the common claim that
vaccines had saved hundreds
of millions of American lives.
The momentous seventy percent
decline in mortalities in the United
States and Western Europe from contagious diseases since nineteen
hundred
marks one of the most
monumental public health advances in all
of human history.
Uh, was this really an achievement of mass
vaccination programs, as
many people, including Senator Cantwell, claim?
The most comprehensive evidence-based
study that rigorously examines
this issue is a CDC-funded study that was published
in two thousand, performed by a team of researchers from
CDC
and Johns Hopkins University and led by Dr.
Bernard Geyer. The scientists meticulously examined a
hundred
years of government infectious
disease mortality data, and they
concluded that nearly all the mortality reductions occurred
before the introduction of vaccines, a-and that vaccinations could
therefore claim little of the credit.
For example, you can see from this graph
that in nineteen hundred, some
thirteen thousand Americans a year were dying of measles.
By nineteen sixty, however, this number had dropped to a few hundred.
But the measles vaccine was not introduced until three years
later.
Therefore, almost all the measles mortality had
disappeared before
the vaccine. So the measles
vaccine can't really claim
the credit
for saving all those lives. Let's look at pertussis, also
known as whooping cough. Again, we see the biggest drop in
pertussis deaths occurred before the introduction of the pertussis
vaccine. The same is true for influenza.
Massive flu mortalities had already disappeared by the nineteen
sixties, but the vaccine was not widely disseminated
until the nineteen eighties. So once again,
the vaccine cannot claim the
credit. And look how tuberculosis deaths nearly
disappeared along the exact
same timeline as all those other
infectious diseases. Even though there was no mass vaccination for
TB in the United States, the mortalities disappeared without any
help
from a vaccine. Likewise, there was never a scurvy vaccine, but
scurvy deaths also
disappeared along the exact same
timeline. The same is true for scarlet fever,
which I had as a boy.
Deaths from scarlet fever disappeared in lockstep alongside the
drops in deaths from all those other contagions.
So what actually did cause the
decline in infectious disease mortality?
A landmark nineteen seventy-seven study by McKinley and
McKinley was required reading
in most American medical schools
during the nineteen
seventies and early nineteen eighties.
That study attributed the decline not to medical advances or
innovations, but almost exclusively to agricultural and
engineering innovations that improved nutrition.
These included better roads,
air transport, and refrigeration, and
superior sanitation.
This was the same period that flush
toilets and water chlorination became widespread.
The McKinleys credited less than three point five percent of the
mortality declines to all
medical measures put together,
including antibiotics, surgeries, a-and
vaccines. A-And here, for example, you see the introduction of
chlorination correlates pretty
perfectly with the decline in infectious
disease mortality. In nineteen seventy, Harvard Medical School
professor Edward Kass was arguably the world's
preeminent infectious disease authority.
He was both the founder and longtime editor of the Journal of
Infectious
Diseases
and president and founding member of the Infectious Diseases Society of
America. In his address that year to a joint meeting of the
Infectious
Disease Society of America and the tenth Interscience
Conference on Antimicrobial
Agents and Chemotherapy, Dr.
Kass issued a prescient public warning that actors
within the medical industry would try to take credit for the
momentous reduction in disease
fatalities in order to advance their
profits, their prestige, and their influence.
Dr. Kass challenged the emerging claim
that vaccines have saved hundreds
of millions of lives. Dr. Kass observed that the decline of
mass deaths from these dreaded killers
occurred prior to the widespread proliferation of vaccines.
And he warned against what he called the half-truths, and
medical research had stamped out
the great killers of the past: tuberculosis, diphtheria,
pneumonia,
puerperal sepsis, et cetera. He cautioned against the claim
that medical research and our
superior system of medical care
were major
factors in extending life expectancy.
The deceptive graph that Senator Cantwell showed the nation is
precisely the kind of scientifically baseless propaganda
device against which Professor Kass warned us.
And yet it is a common trope promoted by
the pharmaceutical industry and allied
medical associations, and their highly paid
politicians, to evangelize us into believing that
vaccines alone saved all those lives.
Senator Cantwell has taken some four hundred and fifty-six thousand
dollars from pharmaceutical companies.
The mantric pronouncement that vaccines have saved hundreds of
millions of lives
i-is so embedded in conventional
wisdom that it rarely receives the kind
of skepticism
and the rigorous scientific examination that public health agencies should
apply to all dogmas.
Vaccines are a critical part of public health.
They can prevent infections like measles altogether and the
serious injuries that sometimes accompany measles,
and they can
prevent you from spreading measles to others.
But blind faith in vaccination alone as our only
recourse against death by infection has inclined our
medical system to discount the role of therapeutic drugs and
vitamins and diet, exercise, and other lifestyle
changes that might fortify human immune systems against
all kinds of sickness. The idea that good health comes only in a
syringe can distort public health priorities and lead
to misallocations of public health resources.
During the Biden administration,
the US government's unbalanced response to
the COVID pandemic
e-exemplified this peril. American citizens paid a
steep price. The United States had more COVID deaths
than any other
nation. Under President Trump's leadership, we
are going to
ensure that America has the best childhood vaccine schedule.
We're gonna address vaccine injuries.
We're gonna modernize American
vaccines with transparent gold
standard science. We're going to eliminate
and correct conflicts of
interest and misaligned incentives, and we're gonna ensure
scientific and medical freedom.
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