DMT and Laser Levels: Claims of Seeing Code on Walls

So, if you bought like a DeWalt laser level at Home Depot and it paints that line across

the wall, and then you put something in front of the laser to kind of diffuse it, so you

take it from being a really thin laser line and then spread that sucker out so it's like

six inches wide, big fat line of laser on the wall.

And then you get somebody that's on DMT or psychedelics, almost any psychedelic, I think.

When you look at that, you can see, number one, you can see through the wall.

You can see through the wall?

You can see through the wall.

Where the laser is or just through the wall?

Right where the laser is, you can see through the wall.

You can even put it on your arm and the code changes on your arm.

If your arm gets in front of where the wall is, the code is completely different.

Are you sh...

What?

I didn't believe this.

So, this was viral on TikTok.

Someone stole the TikTok video and reposted it on their ex account.

I saw this guy, his name is Danny Goler, and he's one of my good friends if you want to

have him on.

I'm listening.

I'll put you guys in touch.

So I see this video, and I'm watching the behavior of the people observing everything

to see if they're lying, because I'm a behavioral expert.

I'm looking for deception and lies and all this stuff all the time.

They were all truthful.

So I called my assistant.

I said, get this guy, wherever he is, fly him to my house or fly him where we can meet

up somewhere.

I want to try this out.

So we flew to a place, we wound up flying to a place where DMT is not illegal.

And shine this thing on the wall, and I've never done DMT before until this day.

And oh my God, that's a whole nother three hour podcast.

But while you are in the DMT state, you get close to the wall and you can see code that

looks kind of like alien writing, like you'd see, and then some that look like kanji, Japanese

characters.

But the thing is, when you're hallucinating something, sometimes hallucinations change

and warp and modify a little bit.

This is permanent, solid.

So like, and if you move your head, the code stays in the same place.

And if you move the laser on the wall, like you take the laser level and scoot it up,

different code reveals itself as the laser is moving.

Then you get two or three people lined up and they all see the same thing.

And I have looked into this quite a bit because I thought this, there's no way this could

be true.

But the first time I saw it, I wept.

I wept.

There's a video of me watching it on YouTube.

And it's just, you're seeing something, but you're left with no answers.

Like the only thing you have coming out of that is like, what the hell did I just see?

You know, it doesn't give you any more knowledge about anything.

But the big thing is, why are we seeing code and where is it coming from and what is it

made of?

And why does everyone see the same exact characters if they're all looking at the same place?

Man, that is crazy.

It is bizarre.

And if you put your arm in front of it, the code completely changes, but only right where

your arm is.

Do you have any theories on this?

None.

Nothing.

Once you see it, like your ability to think that you have shit figured out is gone.

It's gone.

I have no explanation for what the hell it is.

But it's fascinating.

Wow.

And I think this is going to, within our lifetime, if Danny keeps going with this research, we're

going to have a big breakthrough in consciousness understanding of like what the hell it is.

But man, it's beautiful and makes you feel stupid at the same time.

Well, can I mention what you're getting ready to do or do you want to just, if we're keeping

that up?

Oh, you can.

Yeah.

I'm going to make a video about it.

Yeah.

All right.

So you're doing the intravenous psychedelic experience that I guess, you know, apparently

basically almost nobody has done.

And you're going to do some super deep work.

Man, no bullshit, I would love to get you back here and just talk about what that experience

was like.