Is Fourth Place Arsenal's Ceiling Under Mikel Arteta

Finishes fourth this season, which I think is, to be fair, 50/50. I do.

I think that still it's a long way to go.

If he finishes fourth,

he almost in some ways is as good as he can probably get.

That's sad.

It's, it's a stepping stone. You've gotta feel like-

To what?

It's a stepping stone to Champions League recruitment-

Pep, Klopp-

And then you can build and build and build from there

... United, Chelsea. Where can they go? 'Cause they, they're not gonna compete.

That-

United?

Oh, United will recover. They throw that much money at it.

Yeah, I mean, you spent an hour talking about how

they're gonna take ages to

recover.

I know, but my point is I'm not talking about recovering to get

above Arsenal.

That won't take too much of a recovery.

Look at that Liverpool team, look at that Liverpool team pre-Klopp.

You know, it, it-

I'm just saying-

The fact they were, they were million miles away from that

... Mikel Arteta, I worry about...

Mikel Arteta for me is like he's a brilliant coach.

I, I, I love the idea that when I see a team

and I can see the maximum is being

achieved with those players, the... I can see exactly how he wants to play.

We all can. But he gets to fourth,

if he was really hard about it, he'd probably say, "Right,

that's the best I can do

there. I'm going now. I'm gonna do my next job." It sounds

crazy.

No, well, Arsenal-