Abdul y Jesse debaten la sharía, la supremacía blanca y la libertad religiosa
4 min Machine translated About United States Politics
4 min Machine translated About United States Politics
Dijiste que acabar con la ley sharía era supremacismo blanco.
Pongamos la grabación. Dale. No hace falta que te diga que esas mismas fuerzas que expulsaron a los pueblos indígenas de sus tierras hace dos siglos, destruyeron Black Wall Street hace un siglo, bombardearon un edificio hace décadas,
e intentaron prohibir la ley sharía hace menos de una década, esas fuerzas siguen vivas y coleando hoy.
¿Así que acabar con la ley sharía es supremacismo blanco?
¿Puedes explicar eso?
¿S-sabes qué es el derecho canónico, Jesse?
Supongo que eres cristiano, ¿verdad? Sí, dime.
Muy bien, el derecho canónico es el nombre que se da a la ley cristiana.
No te reprocho que tengas derecho a practicar tu fe como tú quieras.
No entiendo por qué la idea de que yo pueda practicar mi fe como yo quiera es un problema.
Nadie intenta imponerle la ley sharía a nadie, Así que espero que nadie intente imponer la ley canónica a nadie más, porque vivimos en una América donde deberías tener la libertad de practicar tu religión.
Así que la idea de que alguien como Tommy Tuberville, ¿no?, que, ya sabes, apenas se le daba bien entrenar fútbol americano— … ande por ahí intentando prohibir la ley sharía cuando menos del uno por ciento de la comunidad musulmana vive en Estados Unidos,
como si de algún modo los musulmanes anduvieran por ahí intentando imponer la ley sharía, me parece que está atacando deliberadamente a la comunidad musulmana porque es diferente.
Y solo digo que, o sea, yo, yo no, yo, yo no tengo ningún problema con que la gente practique su fe.
De hecho, nunca querría que alguien me impusiera su fe, y nunca querría imponerle mi fe a otra persona.
Bien, porque nadie quiere que tú… Eso es lo que significa ser estadounidense…
deshacerte de tu religión. Y entonces la idea…
Nadie quiere eso… Digo, o sea, pero cuando la gente empieza, cuando se adelanta y sale por ahí y empieza a aprobar leyes por adelantado para prohibir algo que no está pasando, lo que intentas hacer es señalar a una comunidad muy pequeña porque son diferentes, y esto, esto funciona…
O sea, mira, yo… solo voy a decir… Mmm, quizá… haya pruebas estadísticas que el presidente…
Eh, la ley sharía en Michigan… el vice- presidente al que le gusta señalarme…
da un poco de miedo, Abdul… simplemente porque me guío por mi fe.
A la gente no le gusta eso. Ya sabes, es como que los hombres son iguales a las mujeres…
Nadie intenta presionar a nadie. Pero, como… Es como castigos físicos…
Creo que te gusta decir la palabra. Mira, J… Jesse, Jesse, mira… A la gente no le gusta eso en Michigan…
Te gusta decir la palabra porque parece muy…
Solo digo que no creo que esa sea una buena postura… realmente extraña y aterradora.
Nadie está imponiendo nada. No, no, pero, Jesse, Jesse, nadie está imponiendo nada.
¿Sabes cuál es el problema en Estados Unidos, en Michigan? ¿Cuál?
El problema que preocupa a la gente no es que, de algún modo, alguien vaya a venir a imponerles la ley islámica.
El problema en Michigan es que a la gente le preocupa cómo va a pagar la gasolina.
El problema en Michigan es: «¿Cómo voy a ver a un médico cuando me enferme?
¿Cómo voy a conservar mi trabajo?» Estás aquí, tú, tú, sinceramente… Yo, yo digo, yo, yo…
Les encanta jugar a esta guerra cultural… Estoy de acuerdo contigo…
en la que usan palabras que suenan muy extranjeras. Estoy de acuerdo contigo…
para no tener que hablar realmente de los temas que le gusta hablar a la gente común. Mira, Mike Rogers es el tipo… Claro…
contra el que me postulo al Senado de EE. UU. Vale.
Y sé que lo has tenido en tu programa. No. Quizá responda preguntas.
No lo he tenido. No sé si lo hace. De hecho, nunca lo he invitado.
Quizá solo vaya a Newsmax, pero mira… No lo has tenido.
Entonces, él también está evitando ir a tu programa, porque está evitando…
Mira, ¿podemos estar todos de acuerdo, Jesse…? No lo he invitado…
tú y yo vamos a debatir, ¿verdad? Yo no…
¿Podemos estar todos de acuerdo en que Mike Rogers es un beta? ¿Estamos todos de acuerdo?
Ni siquiera lo he invitado. Oye, oye, ni siquiera irá a tu programa. Yo…
porque tiene miedo de que lo acorralen… Yo, yo, yo, yo…
Así que solo diré esto… y lo invitaré… a ese tipo…
Y seguro que será genial… quiere estar aquí hablando como… Pero, Abdul…
Jesse, déjame… Él, él… ¿puedo retroceder un segundo?
… está aquí intentando, intentando hablar de Mi…
¿Puedo retroceder un segundo? No, no, no, solo quiero terminar mi argumento.
Terminaré. Dale, sí, vale. Juro que seré breve.
Porque Mike Rogers no está aquí para defenderse.
Cree que se presenta contra Hasan Piker.
Bueno, quizá así sí venga a tu programa.
Quizá entonces te esté haciendo un favor.
Pero ese tipo es un beta, no le gusta responder preguntas…
… y esquiva todos los debates. No, no creo que yo… Así que estoy bastante seguro de que también te va a dar largas.
… necesito a Mike Rogers. Lo único que diré es esto… en el programa, pero gracias por…
Lo único que diré es esto… gracias por organizarlo. Sabes, estoy de acuerdo.
Los precios de la gasolina son demasiado… Bueno, Mike Rogers probablemente se beneficiaría…
Los precios de la gasolina son demasiado altos… probablemente se beneficiaría de venir a tu programa.
Abdul, cállate un segundo. Eh, los precios de la gasolina son demasiado altos.
El Nuevo Pacto Verde no va a ayudar con eso.
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You said getting rid of Sharia law was white supremacy.
Let's roll the tape. Go. I don't have to tell you that the same exact forces that drove native peoples from their land two centuries ago, destroyed Black Wall Street a century ago, bombed a building decades ago, and tried to ban Sharia law not a decade ago,
that those forces are alive and well today.
So getting rid of Sharia law is white supremacy?
Can you explain that one?
Do, do you, do you know what canon law is, Jesse?
I, I assume you're Christian, right? Yeah, tell me.
All right, so canon law is the name for Christian law.
I don't begrudge you your right to practice your faith as you choose.
I don't know why the idea that I could practice my faith as I choose is a problem.
Nobody is trying to push Sharia law on anyone else, just like, I hope, nobody is trying to push canon law on anybody else, 'cause we live in an America where you should have the freedom of your religion.
So the idea that you have somebody like Tommy Tuberville, right, who, you know, barely was good at coaching football- ... is out here trying to ban Sharia law when there's less than 1% of the Muslim community in America,
as if somehow Muslims are out here trying to push Sharia law, that seems to me to be deliberately targeting the Muslim community 'cause they're different.
And I'm just saying that, like, I, I don't, I, I have no issue with people practicing their faith.
In fact, I would never want somebody to push their faith on me, and I would never wanna push my faith on somebody else.
Good, 'cause no one wants you- That's what being an American is about ... to get rid of your religion And so the idea- Good, 'cause no one wants you- That's what being an American is about ... to get rid of your religion And so the idea- No one wants that ...
I'm saying, so, so but when people start, when people preemptively go out there and start preemptively passing laws to ban something that's not happening, what you're trying to do is target a very small community because they're different, and this, this operates...
I mean, look, I- I'm just going to say- Mm, maybe ... there's, there's statistical evidence that the president- Uh, Sharia law in Michigan- ... vice president who likes to target me- ... is kinda scary, Abdul ... simply because I function off my faith.
People don't go for that. You know, it's like men are equal to women- Nobody's trying to push for anybody.
People don't go for that. You know, it's like men are equal to women- Nobody's trying to push for anybody.
But like- ... it's like physical punishments ...
I just think you like to say the word. Look, J- Jesse, Jesse, look- People don't like that in Michigan ... you like to say the word because it seems really- Look, J- Jesse, Jesse, look- People don't like that in Michigan ... you like to say the word because it seems really-
I'm just saying I don't think that's a good position ... really foreign and scary.
Nobody's pushing it. No, no, but Jesse, Jesse, nobody's pushing it.
You know what the issue is in America, in, in Michigan? What?
The issue that people are worried about is not that somehow somebody's gonna come and push Sharia law on them.
The issue in Michigan is people are worried about how they're gonna afford their gas.
The issue in Michigan is, "How am I gonna see a doctor when I get sick?
How am I gonna keep my job?" You're out here, you, you honestly- I, I mean, I, I- ... you guys love to play this culture war game- ... I agree with you ... where you use these words that sound really foreign- I agree with you ...
you guys love to play this culture war game- ... I agree with you ... where you use these words that sound really foreign- I agree with you ... to avoid actually having to talk about the issues that everyday people like to talk about. Now, look, Mike Rogers is the guy- Sure ...
I'm running against for US Senate. Okay.
And I know that you've had him on your show. No. May- maybe he answers questions.
I haven't. I don't know if he does. I've actually never had him on. Maybe he'll go for news max only, but look... You haven't.
I haven't. I don't know if he does. I've actually never had him on. Maybe he'll go for news max only, but look... You haven't.
So, so he, he's ducking your show, too, 'cause he's ducking...
Look, can we all agree, like, Jesse- I haven't invited him on ... you and I are gonna have a debate, right? I didn't- Can we all agree that Mike Rogers is a beta? Can we all agree with that?
I haven't even had him on. Dude, dude won't even come on your show- I- ... 'cause he's afraid of getting grilled ... I, I, I, I- I haven't even had him on. Dude, dude won't even come on your show- I- ... 'cause he's afraid of getting grilled ... I, I, I, I- So I'm just gonna say this- ... and I will have him on ... that guy-
And I'm sure it'll be great ... wants to be out here talking like- But Abdul- ...
Jesse, let me just... He, he- ... can I back up for one second? ... he's out here trying, trying to talk about Mi- Jesse, let me just... He, he- ... can I back up for one second? ... he's out here trying, trying to talk about Mi- Can I back up for one second? No, no, no, I just want to finish my point.
I'll finish. Go, yeah, okay. I swear I'll be quick.
'Cause Mike Rogers isn't here to defend himself.
He thinks he's running against Hasan Piker.
Well, maybe then he'll actually come on your show.
Maybe I'm doing you a favor then. But the guy's a beta, doesn't like to answer questions- ... and he dodges every debate.
I don't, I don't think I- So I'm pretty sure he's gonna dodge you, too ... need Mike Rogers- All I'm gonna say is this ... on the show, but thanks for- All I'm gonna say is this ... thanks for booking it. You know, I agree.
Gas prices are too- Well, Mike Rogers would probably benefit- Gas prices are too high ... could probably benefit from coming on your show. Abdul, pipe down one second.
Gas prices are too high ... could probably benefit from coming on your show. Abdul, pipe down one second.
Uh, gas prices are too high. Green New Deal's not gonna help that.
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