MSTR Stockholder Concerns and Strategy
All right. Let's turn now to the equity side,
to the common stock MSTR.
We have a question from Rob. He said, "I have three
children and I invested 73,000 each into MSTR,
believing in the long-term potential.
Today, that 73,000 is worth 20,000 and the long-term
potential is now a function of getting back to breakeven.
MSTR common shareholders seem to be your lowest priority.
You defend STRC and pay down converts using MSTR at the
market offerings. Achieving BTC per share yield doesn't do
much for my
kids. I have a decade-long perspective, but I'm worried that
you will ATM so much that we'll never get back to 325 a share.
Have you considered paying out a dividend to MSTR common shareholders simply
to do something right by them in the near term?"
I can start on that and, and Mike can add.
And, and Rob, thanks for being a shareholder a- and, uh,
investing some money f- uh, into MSTR for your children.
Uh, of course, the common, uh, shareholders in
MSTR is our most important priority in creating value
and increasing the price of MSTR is our number one
priority. Uh, how do we do that? We do that by
outperforming Bitcoin. And, uh, since the beginning of
our strategy of putting Bitcoin on our balance sheet, that was August of
2020, Bitcoin's been up 32%, MSTR has been
up 41%. So we've outperformed Bitcoin over time,
and I
understand that you came in later and haven't seen that outperformance.
Um, what happens over time, right, uh, when Bitcoin's up,
uh, we tend to go up more because we have more
Bitcoin per share,
and we do that via, uh, historically leverage, and we've done
that more
recently via amplification. Uh, what that does mean,
and, and what you've experienced is when Bitcoin goes down, we tend to go down
more. So, uh, Bitcoin's seen a drawdown of 50% from
all-time highs. MSTR has seen a drawdown roughly of 75% of
all-time highs. Um, because Bitcoin's our
underlying, uh, asset, uh, increasing
Bitcoin per share increases the value of MSTR when Bitcoin
goes up, and we'll see sharper drawdowns.
Um, so how do we increase Bitcoin per share?
We increase Bitcoin per share historically through leverage, through
convertible bonds, and more recently through what Mike talked
about,
which is digital credit and amplification through Stretch.
And so ultimately, if we want the common to go up, we have
to increase Bitcoin per share, and increase Bitcoin per share means
making Stretch work, which is why it may seem like we're talking
primarily about Stretch right now, getting Stretch back to par,
but that's what
gets Bitcoin per share to go up and MSTR the common to go up
over time. Uh, we're not gonna pay a dividend.
Uh, that's not really the best deployment of
capital.
The best deployment of capital for us is to get Stretch to work
to buy Bitcoin and put it on our balance sheet, and that's ultimately the, the, the
objective of, of the company. And so over time, if
you believe in the underlying asset Bitcoin, and Bitcoin starts to
rise for all the characteristics, uh, Mike had mentioned
before, then MSTR will start to rise over time a-
and that's ultimately the goal of the company.
Michael, do you wanna weigh in at all on that?
Yeah. What I'd say is, uh, is if you want a dividend, you
should, uh, you should buy one of the preferred
stocks, like
STRD pays, uh, like almost, like
15% effective yield. So if you're looking for a stable instrument
that pays a dividend, then I would look to STRC
or STRK. Uh, they were designed to pay
dividends and give some upside. Um,
if, uh,
you know, if your time horizon is less than four months,
you probably should own a
money market. If you don't need-- If you want-- are making an investment
and want
the money back or wanna see a good return on your investment in four months to four
years, you're probably a credit investor
and you ought to look at,
uh, you ought to consider one of the credit
instruments.
If you're holding the equity, then you need a time horizon minimal
of four years, right? Ideal seven to 10
years. Uh, Bitcoin was at an all-time high about a year
ago. So
when we're in a bear market, you're gonna get more, uh,
amplified Bitcoin. So you're gonna-- uh, if Bitcoin's down 50%, we're gonna be
down 75%. And in a bull market, we expect to
outperform Bitcoin. So,
you know, when you're buying MSTR, you're getting
amplified Bitcoin. When you're buying Bitcoin,
you're getting on a rollercoaster.
So if you are gonna get on a rollercoaster, then probably you
wanna use, uh, a metric that's like a four-year
blended metric. So when we look at Bitcoin,
we look at the 200-week
simple moving average,
and, uh, that way we take a four-year cycle view
and we
consider how is it trading versus the four-year average.
I think that, uh, that MSTR is going to be more
volatile than that. So, so I think, uh,
the whole point of the equity is to generate the
amplification. And so if we were to pay the dividend, we
would be actually undermining the equity value
proposition and we'd be undermining, uh, the,
uh, credit value proposition. And the reason that the
equity is so volatile is because we sell the credit.
And the reason that we're working hard to build the balance sheet
is because the company's future is based upon the
credit. If, if we can sell $10 billion a
year worth of STRC and if
BTC outperforms our hurdle rate, it's about 10%,
10.5% right now,
then- The $10 billion of credit that we
sold starts to look like net income to the common stock equity
holders. So that being the case, you'll get a multiple on the
credit sales. If there are no credit sales, then there
isn't anything to multiply. And so the single
most important thing is for us to stabilize the credit
business and to build the, the most sustainable, highest
quality, uh, credit business that we can.
And so the equity will, uh, will actually come later,
right? We're in investment mode to build the
credit.
If we do the things that are good for the equity in the near term,
they're bad
for the equity over the long term. And on the other hand,
if we do the things that
are, that are good for the credit in the near
term, that will be good for
the equity. So ultimately, the product of the
company is the credit,
and the better the credit is, the more valuable the company is.
And we think the company will be very, very valuable if we
make the credit, especially STRC,
successful. So we're, we're making a long-term
investment.
It's not unlike Netflix or Amazon.
When Amazon was building out Amazon Prime, they were providing cheap
shipping and, or free shipping for a long period of
time, and people thought it
was not great for the equity. But at the point where everybody in the
country is subscribed to the product, and they all use the product, then
Amazon won the market. And our view is the same.
We want to win the digital credit market, and we-- And ultimately, we
want to create the world's best credit.
And if we do that, then the primary beneficiaries will be the
equity holders, of which I'm a big one.
I have more than 19 million shares of the equity.
So I feel your pain, uh, but, uh, I
think we have to be prepared to have difficult years.
It might be one year, it might be two years.
We, we wouldn't think it would be four years,
but we might have to
actually ride through some number of months or a year or two in order to get to
the point where things start to work to the benefit of the
equity.
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