Discussion on Violence and Innocence

So what's your view in protecting the Beatles children in the event of their

hunters extorting them and having them kidnapped?

I understand that the, the history is

complex and-

So you cannot do-- you cannot simply say you condemn that.

You're trying to use it.

You're trying to find a form of words which let the murder of two children...

I can categorically and easily condemn the murder of any

innocent, whether it's

Gavin or Israel. You simply couldn't do that.

Don't you find that shocking that as a clergyman of the church

that you simply

wouldn't enable that? Instantly say to me, "I condemn the murder of

two innocents."

I, I didn't, I didn't hear you say that.

I said it very clearly. Now, you tell me what-

I, I condemn

all killing.

No.