Concerns Over AI Regulation and Safety

telling you that their models are very dangerous.

I think we should believe them.

It, it certainly is like some, some crazy 4D chess to- ...

you know, um,

you know, as, say the, these i- there, there's whatever 10% chance of

annihilating

humanity. But by the way, um, how much allocation would you like in our

IPO?

Yeah, okay, so there's the crux. See, some people are saying this is dangerous,

take it seriously, but others say these are AI giants who are

trying to create a government-sanctioned monopoly where they're the ones that

have the keys to the kingdom and no other startups can ever get inside

the door.

What do you think?

I think anyone who's read about the promise of AI or the threat of

AI is reasonably concerned about out of control AI

tools-

Mm

... that can cause damage. They're also excited about the promise

that, that it

has. What we have seen in the last week though

is something kind of

altogether different, which is top oligarchs from some of these top

tech companies all coming out at the same time and saying, "We need a

regulatory scheme to deal with the fact that we're running dangerous

companies." It is kinda weird that they claim that they're running

dangerous

companies, but they don't wanna do anything about it

themselves.

They're asking for regulation. On the other hand, if you're in DC,

you see this all

the time. Companies innovate, people innovate,

they start making a lot of

money, and boy have these AI companies had a lot

of money pouring into

them.

Oh, yeah.

And then you don't want anyone else to compete with you-

Mm

... while you're trying to secure more and more profit.

And so some people are s- are a little bit suspicious about how this

is all coming

out at the same time, amplified by people who

are heavily aligned

with Democrat donors. And you saw President Barack Obama

and former

presidential candidate Kamala Harris and Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer,

whose own daughter works at one of these AI companies.

They're all coming out and saying, "Uh, we now need to do a regulatory scheme to

deal with this, uh, alleged threat."

I mean, for me the, the, the one big red flag

is what company invites government

regulation?

Well, it-

They're all trying to get rid of government regulation-

Except that-

... for the most part

... except that if you are trying to keep out competitors,

that's actually a pretty

common thing that you see people say.

They-

No, I mean, m- but for any other reason than that.

Yeah.

So, so, uh, the doomer warnings that AI is gonna kill us all, I mean, that

we've seen in the last week, there's been a lot out of Jacob Coxen

formerly from,

from Anthropic and, uh,

OpenAI came out. Here's what Jerry Baker wrote in the Wall

Street Journal.

"I'm a natural skeptic of alarmism and suspicious whenever a company tells me

the

government must do something. We have been told for the past 70 years

that unless

the government acts, life on the planet is about to be extinguished by nuclear

weapons, climate change, Y2K, pandemics. We're still waiting.

There has not yet been an extinction-level eve- uh, event." Uh, I mean,

on the one hand as you point out, AI can be extraordinarily helpful

and beneficial, but then there is a potential dark side

that I find frightening.

Well, that is absolutely true, but what I think people

are concerned about in this

particular case is that people are fomenting hysteria

about AI precisely so that a group of people who are heavily

aligned with the Democratic Party can have control of the

entire AI space. You know, whoever controls information

controls politics. We went from radio to TV to cable TV

to social media, and now we're in this age of AI

algorithms.

Whoever controls that will have the power to censor any

opinions they don't want.

Mm-hmm.

And a lot of the people who are involved here, Barack Obama,

Kamala Harris, and

some of these AI tech companies, were involved with some of the worst

and most

egregious censh- censorship that we saw during COVID,

where you weren't

allowed to talk freely about what was going on or else you'd be punished on

these,

um, social media platforms. And if they can control

information, they can control politics for decades to

come.

And so the fact that you're seeing a partisan divide here, where all of the

prominent Democrats are pushing for a particular regulatory

scheme, but the

Republicans are saying, "We're not so sure,"

is really a reflection of that

censorship issue.

You know, I keep hearing we've gotta win the AI

race.

I'm not sure what victory looks like because China's certainly gonna keep going

even if we get there first. I don't know. Mollye, good to talk to you.

Thanks so much.

Thanks.

Appreciate it. Sandra?

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