Discussion on Honoring God and Worship

Here's my question to you

Yeah

How do you honor God?

You honor God by respecting His laws.

What's the highest way you can honor God?

Many ways.

What's the highest way?

Again, for me as a Muslim-

Mm

... submitting myself to the will of my

creator.

It's a word beginning with W, don't you think?

Uh, worship is one way for sure.

Is that the highest way?

Uh, uh, sure, why not? Let's take worship.

Why not?

Okay, let's take-

Let's take worship. Okay.

Okay.

I think the highest form of-

Got it

... veneration for God is worship as well.

So if I say, "Honor..." I don't know.

If I say, "Honor me the same way that you would honor the king"-

Mm-hmm

... I'm saying that the, whatever respect you would give to the

king, give it to

me, right?

Sure.

Okay. Jesus says, "Honor me the same way

that you would honor the Father."

Whatever wo- whatever honor you would give to Him,

veneration, prayer, worship,

you would also have to give it to Him, right?

No.

I will explain how. So here, this is the interesting part that he

wanted me to skip over.

He's gonna move on to the next one.

No, see, no, no, I'm not getting away from it.

All right. It's all right.

Yes, you are.

I am 100% not running.

You said no. That's fine.

So you're gonna use only verse 23?

I'm not. I'm, I'm-

Let him go with what-

I'm not running from nothing.

And pay attention to the clock on the-

I, I don't have to only use verse 23, 'cause he knows the rest of the Bible goes

against his point.

He wants to use verse 19. Let's hear it.

Ben, Ben, you're looking at me. That means you should just let him finish

his

thought.

All right. All right. We can watch him, watch him, watch him run from it, right?

We do want to-

Okay

... be mindful of our time. We're gonna start wrapping these up here

shortly, so

finish.

Now, interestingly-

All right. Give us some time. Give us some time

... interestingly, the author of John does not say

that Jesus did make

himself equal, but rather the Jews sought that,

and that's why they went to

kill him. That's the first point that I wanna make.

This is equal to God, it says in the Bible.

Secondly... Now, now he's interrupting, right?

Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

Interruption, interruption, interruption.

Same as you.

Right?

Same as you. Same as you. There's no problem.

Uh, okay, now interestingly, in the same chapter

which he doesn't want me to read-

Continue

... "I can of myself do nothing."

Continue.

"The Son can do nothing."

Continue.

"Can Go-"

Ben, hold on. Hold on.

Uh, you told me to continue.

I did.

No, no, no thank you.

I did.

Hold on.

No, no.

So you don't wanna keep reading the verse?

No, no.

All right. All right.

You let me read-

All right

... and let me speak, and I don't need you to tell me

when to continue, thank you

very much.

I don't wanna get caught up in this.

You're not gonna use and not read a half-sentence.

I could just end this right now

... "I can of myself do nothing as I hear. I judge.

My judgment is righteous." Why? "Because I do not seek

my own will but the will of the Father who sent me.

How can you believe, who receives honor from another and do

not seek the honor that comes from the only God-

The honor

... who sent, who... Only God who sent

Jesus."