Debate on Maternal Mental Health and Crime

Differing about the case?

We are.

Yeah.

Yeah, we have opposing views.

We do, and I think, you know, I say to her,

I think 'cause she hasn't gone through

it, she's not a mother, so she doesn't know how it, it feels to

have a child.

And you disagree?

I disagree. I am... I feel like I'm not with the majority

right now.

I do believe she's a murderer. Um,

I'm an-

After all you've heard today, you still believe-

I'm an advocate for mental health.

Yeah.

It's just unfortunate, like... And she's so quick to say it.

She's like, "You've never had a baby.

You don't understand what it's like to go through all the hormonal shifts."

But I just feel as though

these were not instant deaths. They weren't gunshots to the head.

She was there strangling her kids

three times.

Mm-hmm.

You're telling me, like, even after the first time,

she couldn't snap out of it?

Sh- you're watching the life leave your kid's

eyes, you know?

So,

I know. I hear everybody's opinions, and God bless mothers, but at the sa-

I just don't understand how we can empathize with somebody

that... They weren't strangers.

Mm-hmm.

They were her kids.

Mm-hmm.

And she was able to grab those exercise

bands. That, that took a lot of effort, and it's, it breaks my

heart

that these young kids gone through that.

But

it's, I'm grateful that this conversation is happening,

because I do

believe, like, women,

um,

they are on the back burner when it comes to mental health.

If this was a man, like, there would be, like, a law the next day or

something going on, but-

There would've been research.

Would've been funded.

Something, right away.

Would've... Yes.

But it's just, I just feel like with her, it's becoming, she's

becoming a mascot for

just... I feel like so many mothers empathize with

her so much that

they wanna put her out there, make her a mascot, and

they're turning something so negative into a movement.

Okay. I hear that. So y'all will continue...

Y- you all will not be agreeing, no time soon. Okay.

No.

No. No, we're not.

Thank you for-