Campaign Strategies and Voter Engagement

have a girls and gays issue, where all the staffers and all the

people who make up the, the campaign teams, Capitol Hill staffs,

like, they don't have straight white dudes

who watch podcasts and care about this shit. These

are voters...

By the way, we k- we all know that Trump won young men,

and they swung from Biden,

all that stuff.

I'm curious, though, if you think that is an oversimplification,

if you believe that the culture and staffing of

Democratic campaigns is important if you wanna win back those kinds of

voters. And by the way, one reason I had this on my brain was,

and we've

seen, like, stupid tweets from, like, I don't need to

know what Chris Murphy or Mark Kelly thinks about the new Taylor

Swift

album when it comes out. You know, there's, like, those tweets.

Or I saw, um, Brandon Johnson the other day doing, like,

a, like, a

TikTok dance. Did you see that?

I did see that, yes.

The mayor of Chicago?

Yes.

Like-

You should not

... why? I just think you need-

Yeah

... I just think you need a guy on staff who,

um,

plays fantasy football, enjoys the occasional nicotine product,

likes to get drunk on the couch and fire up Entourage

reruns or World War II content

on the TV, to look at that tweet and say,

"This looks corny and cringe as fuck.

Don't do that." Uh-

Yeah

... and like, I'm not s- I'm not saying that, like, like,

straight dudes

need to run campaigns. It's just that maybe I'm just being an old

millennial.

Um, it used to be that those people were in the room, and I

think so many times, like, with campaigns, the thing people

see is, like, a tweet or a TikTok or an Instagram, and they

d- they draw a lot of inferences, um,

from those things. And, uh, I don't know.

I just-