Debate on COVID Vaccine Efficacy

But I also don't want to use this interview to allow you to say things that aren't entirely true.

You're talking about therapeutics. Fine.

It is also factually true that the covid vaccine worked.

The covid vaccine prevented deaths. There is data upon data upon data.

Let's talk about the measles, please, because this is something that is happening

as as we speak at the cases in the U.S. and protected

children. I think that what I have talked to scientists and doctors about this,

can you look, can you show me one study?

Yes, I can.

Shows that I can. Children were protected by the covid vaccine.

I can tell you that there are more good than harm to children.

Can you show me one study that shows I can tell you that when it comes to the

vaccine, there have been studies that show that because of vaccine disinformation,

disinformation, there could have been. 100 to 200,000 lives in the U.S. saved

because people didn't get the vaccine. That's why. I'm not saying that it entirely...

Let me finish. Let me finish.

You are saying nonsense. You are saying something that you cannot show me.

OK. A single study makes sense to me.

I am not saying nonsense. You are talking what...

Excuse me. ... somebody told you. Excuse me. And you...

Let me... Cite me the study.

What study? No. What studies are you talking about?

You're talking about studies that actually don't exist.

I want to talk about... Cite me the study that you're talking about.

I am not here to defend... You say you've seen studies. Cite

me the study.

This is not productive.

I am not here to defend all of the...

Let me finish.

You're talking nonsense. You're making assertions you can't support.

And then when I call you on them, you're telling me that I'm arguing with you. OK.

Do you want to talk about...

Do you want to talk about...