Debate over trans women, women's spaces and crime

Saying that trans women are women is factually, biologically, provably, scientifically untrue.

Trans women, by definition, are trans-identified men. They are men, they are not women.

They're not women.

They're not, and the Supreme Court ruling was incorrect.

Everything we've ever known about biology is incorrect.

If you let me finish with one thing, because I know we're limited in time,

what I will say, Julia, is trans women are women, trans men are men,

the predators are in power, and those people like Donald Trump are pointing to trans people

to blame them. It's projection to their own crimes as rapists.

Okay, trans women are women. This mug is a table, because I'm just making up,

I'm making up the definition of words. This is a table, and if you don't believe that, James,

you are a bigot. That's literally what you've just said to me.

You are the one who exposes bigotry on this show.

I've never been bigoted. I'm not bigoted. I express no hate.

If a man believes he's a woman, he either has suffering from a mental health issue,

it used to be called gender dysphoria, or he is lying and he's wanting to gain access to

women's spaces for nefarious reasons, or it's a fetish. There are only three reasons why men

would claim that.

Okay, so one of your reasons there, famously, so men have to dress up as a woman to infiltrate

spaces and rape them. I don't think that's true when the President of the United States

can rape women and get away with it and be the president.

Men have been able to rape women forever and continue.

Nobody is dressing up as a woman to access women's spaces.

They literally are. They literally, James, you need to keep up on the crime stats, my darling.

You're the most powerful man in the world.

Why are you talking about Donald Trump? It's got so little to do with Donald Trump.

He sends a message to all the rapists out there.

Listen, James, I'm going to win this. It's got nothing to do with him. No, it's got nothing

to do with him. American people vote for him. More for them on that front, on that particular

issue. Okay, here's the thing. It's very, very simple. When the vast majority of violent and

sex crimes against women are committed by other women, then we'll worry about the women. Women

want safe spaces to get changed, to go to the toilet, because men are a physical threat and

we don't know which men are. And the stats are very clear. The men who identify as trans have

exactly the same criminal rate as non-trans identified men. And that's why we don't want

any men in any of our spaces. And that's not bigoted. I'm going to have to end the conversation

now. I get the last say because it's my show.