Discussion on COVID Pandemic Response

Thanks for having me. Appreciate it.

You have been placing nearly all the blame on the COVID pandemic

and the way that the U.S. responded to it squarely with Dr. Fauci.

But of course, he worked for President Trump.

Does President Trump also deserve some of the blame?

Well, you know, President Trump, as you recall, wanted to end the lockdowns.

I think the thing that did the most damage to our country was the lockdowns,

lockdowns that shut down 3.5 million businesses in our country with no due process, no just compensation.

All of our churches closed, our schools and our children are still paying the price for that.

And yet we had the worst outcome of any country in the world.

How so? We have the highest death rate from COVID of any nation on Earth.

Well, let me just let me just say, because I've heard you say that before on the death rate from COVID.

That's not accurate because.

Public health experts say that there is a combination of factors that went into that higher rates of chronic illnesses,

which I know you would agree with gaps to our health care system and misinformation about it.

You just said what I said was inaccurate.

What I said was accurate.

We have the highest death rate from COVID of any.

There are there are there are other countries that are higher, but you can go ahead about why

we had that. But you nobody can tell you. I mean, we have,

as you say, we have the highest chronic disease burden in the world.

But Anthony Fauci was mismanaging the COVID pandemic and was doing it under the Biden administration.

President Trump wanted to end the lockdowns. And in fact, in Anthony Fauci's diaries,

he talks about how President Trump is calling him every day trying to get him to reopen the country.

Well, the lockdowns were done by governors.

I mean, certainly Anthony Fauci and the president had opinions, but the lockdowns were done by governors

and largely because and largely because largely because they were hearing they were hearing from hospitals saying that their ICUs were overrun and they needed some help.

Well, that was happening. That's true. It's just not true. What you're saying is not true.

No, they were doing it because Anthony Fauci was telling them from the top, you need to lock down.

There were ICUs that were empty all over the country, including in New York at the height.

I'm asking you when to go back to what I asked you at the beginning, which is President Trump.

And he was the guy in charge. And he you tweeted back in twenty twenty four that he let bureaucrats like Anthony Fauci shut down the entire country again.

The president was in charge. The president was trying to reopen the country when he left the country with a state was kept closed for another year, almost a year and a half after

that. Let's talk about how to prevent the next pandemic, because there's a lot of.