Discussion on Lindsay Clancy Case

Right now you've got all these women that are celebrating Lindsay Clancy.

Did you hear about that? Do you think she's innocent?

Oh, the story that she killed her children

just doesn't make sense...

Oh, 'cause, like, she was postpartum?

Yeah.

But okay, okay, okay, listen. Oh, even- Do you even know what, like, it is?

Like, it's literally, like, a psychological problem.

So every woman that has kids is psychotic?

No, it's different for everybody.

What offsets postpartum depression?

It depends for everyone. Like, how, how pregnancies go, how, how

pregnancies go for them, it depends.

So-

Some people it goes really bad

... so women have the propensity to murder

their children after childbirth?

No, no, but I, I just think that this is, like- Mm ...

a, this is a, you know, she... I'm not saying, like, you know what?

Do you know what happened? So this lady, she had, like, kids, but then she,

like... I don't know, this is what I think happened, but, like,

she had kid,

then she was like, she, she had postpartum depression.

She strangled three of her children from ages eight months old to

five years old.

Yeah, but no, like, I think that's fucked up. Like, yeah.

But it's, it was a psychological problem.

So is she guilty or innocent?

Guilty.

Okay. But there's women that donated 100, well, a million dollars for

her, and

she's created a movement. Women are protesting for her rights.

But I just, like, I'm just saying, like- Well, I mean, like for- ...

she needs the help ... yeah, for people who need help- Yeah ...

but, like, what she did was, like, not right.

I know. The vast majority of these women getting

involved in this think that she's

innocent.

Oh, okay.

Wait, explain-

No, but, okay, I don't think s- I don't think people think she's innocent

... e- explain postpartum depression. Explain this. Why, how does this w- w...

It's psychotic. Like, tell me about it.

Huh?

Tell me about postpartum depression.

I mean, I've never been pregnant so I can't really

say.

Yeah, so what do you know about it? You, you knew that it w- all, it makes you

psychotic.

No, I... Okay, so if a pregnancy goes, like, really not

well for a woman, like, having, after having a child, like, she might,

she might hate it. Like, she might hate the child.

She might hate her child, even though she just gave birth to it.

Okay. So if the pregnancy's hard, you might wanna kill your kid?

I'm not saying that. It's just, like, it puts you in a s- it's, like,

puts you in a

really dark place, like, psychologically. You don't want to do this.

It was premeditated. She planned it out

and told her husband to go to the doctor's

office so she could do it.

Bro, but, like, do you not understand, like, how, like, mental illnesses work?

I do. She's insane. If you think if you kill your three children,

you're an insane

person.

Yeah, so, like, she needs the help that she... Like, right?

Like, you put, you don't- Okay, I get that.

Like,

no, I get what you mean. Like, obviously those kids, like, they're,

they're, like,

born kids. Though they do not deserve... Like, that was fucked up.

Like, those kids have a, had a really great future-

She strangled her three children-

Like-

... then jumped out of a window

Just a little bit, yeah. I don't know.

No, but it's like, this is a psychological problem.

Like, the fact that you just, like...

I just don't think that, like, putting her in jail is gonna get, like, g-

is gonna

get her, get her the help. Like, I just think that, like-

But they do offer out

there, no? Yeah, no, but that's a different thing.

Then, then you have to put her in, like, a-

Wait

... like, a mental ins-

You don't, you don't think she should go to jail?

Not for the moment, no, 'cause I just don't think she's-

You just said she was guilty.

No, 'cause I said, like... Okay, listen.

I'm saying that, like, she just-

If she's guilty of murder-

... I just don't think, I just think-

If she's guilty of-

Think, okay-

... aggravated murder of, of three children, she's going to prison.

Yeah, no, j- I think she's, she's gonna go to prison,

but I'm just saying, like, I

think-

But you don't think she should

... I just think that she needs the help beforehand, like,

going back to prison.

So she needs therapy before prison?

Not therapy.

What sort of help does she need?

I think put her in a mental institute.

Experimental? She needs to be experimented on?

Not experimental. I said mental.

So what is that? Therapy?

Like, actual, like, psychological help.

Like what?

I don't know. They must do something.

Like, what? It's just, you don't even... What are you talking about?

It's just c- like, it's... Okay, the thing is, when you,

when there's, like, a serious, like, psychologic...

I just don't think that, like, putting her in prison is, like, a-

So where should she go?

... at the end of the day, like, pris-

So what should happen to her?

I'm telling you.

No, you're not. W- w- what should happen to her?

Um, I just think that they should put, I think, like,

um, they need to take her to a mental

institute, and then, and

then, like, when it feels like she's out of it,

then yeah, like, she should be put

in prison.

So institutionalize her until she's ready for jail?

Yeah.

But, like, that's her crime. Does it? Okay, I don't know.

Then, like, yeah, prison. I don't know much on the situation.

Like, I have to really, like, get into it to, like, actually, like s-

She strangled her three kids 'cause she had postpartum depression, she says.

Okay, that's awful.

Can't really validate that.

Um,

I guess, yeah, you're right.

Do you think if a man strangled his three children,

premeditated-

But a man isn't, the man, a man is not going through postpartum

depression, though,

is he?

What if he's depressed?

Like, he's not the one who gets-

What if he has, uh, what if he has clinical depression?

Huh? Then that's...

But that's different, no? Yeah, 'cause

do you, like, po- do you know, do you know,

do you know what postpartum depression

is, dude?

I don't think you do.

Well, I mean, I guess-

Okay, so let's assume a man-

... the thing is that-

Hold on, hold on. Let, let's assume a man-

I've never experienced it. I've never seen anybody, like, have it,

like, firsthand,

but I know, like, it, like, puts you in a dark place.

Like, I know, like, I've seen, I've seen on the internet and stuff.

Like, it's just, like, it's not, like, you're not-

You've seen it on the internet?

Am I supposed to, like, what am I supposed to do?

Okay.

How else am I gonna get my information-

Let's say a man strangles his eight-month-old, his three-year-old, and

his five-year-old kid 'cause he's clinically depressed.

Would you give him the same sympathy?

I'm not saying- No, I think if, if he's, like, if he's really going through

something, like, bad, and he was not getting the help that he needed,

then yeah, I

would feel the sympathy.

Do you think that anybody strangles their children who's not going through

something? People who commit murder are-

Then, then I would, I would say that they're, like,

Nobody mentally well strangles three babies.

This is somebody who's already sick.

Nobody does this when they're in a happy place.

It doesn't justify a crime.

This is not how criminals get prosecuted,

determining whether or not they're happy.

Yeah, no, I get it. Yeah, no, I get that. I get that.

Like, I, I just don't know much about it to, like,

give an opinion.

But, like, I'm just talking about, like, separately, like, postpartum depression.

But, like, yeah, like, I guess she should, she should go to jail, but I'm not,

like, I, again, like, I'm not, like, 100%, like, I don't know what

actually happened. This is, like, the-

She strangled her three kids.

Yeah, there we go. Okay, but- So yeah, like, from what I, I hear you say

and how you tell me about it-

That's what happened. This is, this is objectively-

... they have

... she, she killed three of her children, all three