Discussion on UFOs and Government Secrecy

The second thing that bothers me is the UFO story

and, you know, the more you dig into that

and talk to people with actual knowledge of it,

again, that's another story where there are some,

you know, fanciful ideas floating around that are just,

you know, there's no evidence that they're true.

But if you talk to people who,

you know, have actual knowledge of it that they gathered themselves,

there are parts of that story

that I do not understand at all

that are really, really, really dark.

It's so dark that I, you know,

haven't told my wife about it.

I mean, I haven't verified any of this,

but this is not just stuff that I read on the internet.

I know you all are very, very grounded in that story,

so I think I know you know what I'm talking about.

But there's some stuff there that's just like,

man, I'm not even sure what that means.

There's a spiritual component there that I don't fully understand.

So, yes, that story bothers me.

And I think, last thing I'll say,

that one of the reasons that we've had all these disclosures

and all these, what, ten whistleblowers at this point,

and it hasn't really become front page news.

Part of it's suppression.

You know, parts of the government don't want you to know about it.

But part of it is the public can't deal with it.

It's too far out.

The implications are too profound.

And so, and I understand that.

Because I've heard things where I'm just like, oh man,

I don't even really want to know that, honestly.

Deeply disturbing stuff.

You know, forget like saucers and technology.

It's deeply, deeply disturbing stuff.

Stuff that I haven't even told Natalie.

I agree with you.

It's so disturbing. I can't even tell my kids.

My kids ask me different stories about it.

And I won't say it because it's so dark.

It's so dark.

I totally agree. Miles is watching.

Okay, Miles, if you're watching the show,

Daddy's not going to tell you about that part of the UFO stuff

and what's going on with the government.

Can I say one thing?

They've known, clearly, I mean, this is, I think, established

and I feel comfortable saying this as fact.

The US government, I mean, these are real, whatever they are.

They're not human.

And the government has known that for a long time.

Possibly going back to the 1930s, at least.

And, of course, there's tons of evidence in the

written record, in the physical record, in paintings, and in literature,

that people have been seeing and interacting with these things for a long time.

So we know that.

But the justification one often hears is, well,

the government, various presidents who have been read in,

not all have been,

haven't wanted to disclose this because it would scare people.

And I've always thought that's bullshit.

You know, you're hiding a crime, which they are,

by the way, in my opinion.

But I do think there's a sense in which that's not totally crazy.

Like, there is some stuff,

if it's true, and I'm kind of thinking it may be true,

that's so radical that,

yeah, well, as we both said,

we don't want to tell the people we love most about it

because, like, why would you, you know, disturb someone like that?

So I kind of get that.

I hate to admit it.

I'm not arguing for hiding things.

I believe in the truth and I believe in disclosure.

But I understand the impulse, like, holy smokes, this is heavy.

You know what I mean?

Right.

And the government's involvement in it makes it even heavier

because then you realize the complicity of it.

Exactly. Yeah.

Okay, so we're talking about the same thing.

I can tell. Okay.

Excuse me.

Should I go?

No, no, no, no.

This is what we used to talk about in commercial breaks

all the time.

This is the kind of stuff Anyway,

at the time, I never would have believed any of that.

But now I'm like, yeah, okay.

Yeah, yeah.