Lab Leak Theory and COVID Origins

A miracle has happened. The New York Times ran an op-ed

acknowledging not only that

the COVID virus originated in a lab, but that government

officials and scientists conspired to keep the substantiating

evidence secret. The lab leak theory was censored on social media

because of pressure from the administration. We shouldn't have done it.

Okay, just so you, everybody knows that. So here's from the...

I'll s- I'll start, I'll read some of it from the article,

right?

So

in 2020, when people started speculating

that a laboratory

accident might have been the spark that started the COVID-19 pandemic, they

were treated like kooks and cranks.

Many public health officials and prominent scientists dismissed the

idea as a

conspiracy theory, insisting that the virus had

emerged from animals in a seafood market in Wuhan, China.

And when a non-profit called EcoHealth Alliance, which is a CIA

cutout, lost a grant because it was planning to conduct

risky research into bat viruses with the Wuhan Institute of

Virology, research that if conducted with lax safety standards

could have

resulted in a dangerous pathogen leaking out into the world.

No fewer than 77 Nobel laureates and 31

scientific societies lined up to defend that

organization.

Mm-hmm.

So when the Wuhan research was t- So the, the Wuhan research

was totally safe,

and the pandemic was definitely caused by natural transmission.

It certainly seemed like consensus. This is the New York Times talking.

Yeah.

We have since learned, however, that to promote the appearance of

consensus, some officials and scientists hid

or understated crucial facts, misled at least one reporter,

meaning they lied-

Mm-hmm

... orchestrated campaigns of supposedly

independent

voices, and even compared notes about how to hide

their

communications in order to keep the public from hearing the whole

story.

Yeah.

And as-

Mm-hmm

... as for the Wuhan laboratory's research,

the details that have since

emerged show that the safety precautions might have been

terrifyingl- terrifyingly lax. Might have been?

I heard they were like a dental office, but anyway.

Uh, this is-

Yeah

... why, why haven't we learned our lesson?

Maybe because it's hard to admit that this research is risky now,

and to take the requisite steps to keep us safe without also admitting

it was always risky.

Mm-hmm.

And perhaps we were misled on purpose. Perhaps.

Even though that we have tons of evidence that they were lying to us.

Yeah.

This New York Times reporter still says perhaps.

Right. Right.

Take the real story behind two in, two very influential

publications that quite early in the pandemic cast the lab leak

theory as baseless.

By the way,

this writer is pretending that she wasn't in on it.

Mm.

Right?

Or that she didn't report

what she knew at the time, 'cause if I knew, she knew.

Right. That's right. I knew it.

You knew it.

How did I know it? How did Joe Rogan know it?

We read something.

That's right.

It's kinda like when Jack- Jake Tapper wrote a book on the Biden

dementia coverup.

That's what this is.

The f- uh, the first

organization was a March 2020 paper in the Journal of Na- Nature

Medicine, which was written by five prominent

scientists and declared

that no laboratory-based scenario for the pandemic virus was

plausible. But we later learned through Congressional

subpoenas of their Slack conversations that while the

scientists publicly said the scenario was

implausible, privately, many of the authors considered the

scenario to not, to be not just plausible,

but likely. So Dr. Fauci and those scientists who

wrote that article, the proximal orange, they were lying.

They were.

They were lying to us, and anybody who questioned their lies

was called a

racist.

And your career was obliterated, and he sent those emails of how to

squash this information,

which have been covered, like by Jim Jordan

and those Congress hearings-

That's right

... and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah.

So-

And, and Peter Daszak, the guy of He- EcoHealth Alliance, was part

of the WHO investigation into the lab.

They sent six people into that lab, sent them in there.

They looked around, and you know what they said?

Nothing to see here.

Nothing to see.

And you know what the news reported? Lab leak unlikely.

And that's what was reported.

This, so, so it's weird that I knew this, uh, five years before The New York

Times. Isn't that weird?

And, and me. And I w- didn't even have an editorial job,

and I read it, and then

when I looked into it, I saw other articles and, and, and proper

papers confirming this.

The, the... You know that virus didn't even come from Wuhan.

That type of bat is in the Yunnan province, which is 1,000 miles

south.

They don't even have that type of bat.

So

one of the authors of that paper, the evolutionary biologist Christian

Anderson,

she wrote in her Slack message-

... the lab escape version of this is so frigging

likely to have happened because they were already doing this

type of work, and that the m- molecular data is fully consistent

with that scenario. That's what the scientists

were actually saying, but

they were saying something completely different publicly.

Fauci was lying to you. The New York Times was lying to you.

The Lancet was lying to you.

Yeah.

Nature Magazine was lying to you.

Yeah.

They were lying to you. They weren't misleading.

It's still unbelievable, though.

And still nobody's upset that they were lied to.

Nobody's upset.

Nobody, nobody I know who's a, who votes Democrat is upset- That

they were lied to about COVID, the biggest thing that ever happened

I still don't understand why you don't have mainstream doctors on your show.

I, I had a guy g- come on my show and said, "Jimmy, you should bring more

mainstream doctors on."

Like who? Peter Hotez?

I... You right.

S- spooked, the authors reached out for advice to

Jeremy F-

Farrar, now the chief scientist at the WHO.

Oh.

In his book, he revealed he acquired a burner phone.

Oh.

Mm-hmm.

What is he-

And he arranged meetings for, for them for,

with those scientists who were

writing that paper to lie to you. He got...

So this guy at the WHO, he got a burner phone,

and then he arranged meetings for those scientists with people like Francis

Collins, who was the head of the NIH, and people like Anthony Fauci.

He got a burner phone.

Oh my God, like people are using Slack and getting burner phones?

Burner phones.

This is what they're doing? This is what people do who w-...

Like, the Ashley Madison people, right?

Like, the b- this is what people do who want affairs,

to have affairs.

I, I think every trusted authority in the

health industry should be caught

using a burner phone. Nothing says integrity more like a burner

phone.

And this, and the New York Times still refers to it

as perhaps they were misleading

us on purpose. They were using burner phones.

Yeah, yeah.

And they were saying the-

You... They don't wanna get busted. It's clear as day.

That, that's as clear as day.

Yeah.

Uh,

documents obtained through public records request by the nonprofit US

Right to Know show that the scientists ultimately decided to

move ahead

with the paper, so they'd ultimately decided to lie.

That's what this-

Yeah

... that's what... I can rewrite this for this writer.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. So operating behind the scenes, Farrar reviewed their

draft and suggested to the authors that they rule out the lab leak

theory even more directly, and then they complied.

Mm-hmm.

So they just, they just, they just knowingly lied.

So a- again-

Right

... it, you, you th- you think that scientists and doctors have some kind

of

integrity? They can be bought just like anybody else.

I know.

Just like anybody else, they're bought off.

Ugh.

And so what this woman doesn't write in this article is that Dr.

Fauci gave them, like, eight or $9 million in

research grants-

Right

... and then they completely flip their story.

Right. Ka-ching, ka-ching.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Anderson later testified to Congress that he had simply become convinced that

the lab leak, while theoretically possible,

was not plausible.

Later, chat logs obtained by Congress show the

paper's lead

authors discussing how to mislead

this guy Donald McNeil Jr., who was reporting on the pandemic's

or- origin for The New York Times. So they all got together-

Mm-hmm

... "Hey, how do we lie to The New York Times?"

Mm-hmm.

This is Dr. Fauci, all those people.

Mm-hmm.

So as to throw him off the track about the possibility

of a lab leak.

Wow, what a bombshell.

Yeah.

This... I mean, it was a bombshell when I reported it two years ago

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